From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Mar 14 06:11:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA07540 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 06:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07531 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 06:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17788 for hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:10:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199603141410.PAA17788@nixpbe.pdb.sni.de> Subject: Re: Microsoft "Get ISDN"? To: aledm@routers.co.uk (Aled Morris) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 15:07:18 MET From: Greg Lehey Cc: hackers@freebsd.org (Hackers; FreeBSD), isdn@muc.ditec.de In-Reply-To: <199603141251.MAA09029@deputy.pavilion.co.uk>; from "Aled Morris" at Mar 14, 96 11:43 am X-Mailer: xmail 2.4 (based on ELM 2.2 PL16) Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At 09:06 14/03/96 MET, Greg Lehey wrote: >> (S0 is a German term for BRI) > > Being pedantic, S0 is the name of the "reference point" where you > interface to the ISDN. I *love* being pedantic :-) In this particular case, all the more so because I searched the literature for this abbreviation a while back. To quote from Helgert, "Integrated Systems Digital Networks", first (only?) edition, 1991, p. 25: The S reference point defines the demarcation between the TE1 or TA on the one side and the NT2 on the other. If we consider the functions of NT2 to be primarily ntwok related, S provides a separation of the logical and possibly physical functions of the end-user and the network and thus corresponds to a boundary between the two. No mention here or in any other literature I have seen of S0 or S2m (which Deutsche Telekom uses to refer to Primary Rate Interface). > ISDN is delivered on a copper pair, ("U" interface) which is adapted > to a two pair "S" (or "S0") interface by an "NT1". In the US, the customer > is responsible for the NT1 (hence many ISDN devices boast "integrated > NT1") whereas in Europe, the telco provides the NT1. BRI is usually delivered on UTP within a larger (minimum 2UTP) cable. Helgert reprints a diagram from the 1988 Blue Book on page 23, showing the interfaces U (transmission), T and S. U and T are separated by an NT1, and T and S are separated by an NT2. On the S bus you can hang either a TE1 (such as an ISDN BRI board or "modem"), or a TA, which creates an R interface to a TE2 (such as an analogue phone). > Same with DSU/CSUs for regular leased lines I believe. I wouldn't know about that. I would guess that that depends on whether they're analogue or digital. Greg