From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 17:32:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014B11065673 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohauer@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 475498FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Aug 2012 17:32:53 -0000 Received: from p578be941.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.0.100]) [87.139.233.65] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 21 Aug 2012 19:32:53 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1956535 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/rHCAtqALrsKU7ssZC9ClzjUZnhZJ5GywrPbI+ZZ 9xnLgaU6KsTXa5 Message-ID: <5033C644.3050302@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:32:52 +0200 From: olli hauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <67977762.20120821154035@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Garrett Cooper , current@freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: r239356: does it mean, that synchronous dhcp and dhcplcinet with disabled devd gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:32:55 -0000 On 2012-08-21 13:45, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Lev. > You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35: > > GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know. > LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone), > LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous > LS> dhcp" option in rc.conf). > LS> Am I right? > Also, I don't like idea of removing IP address from interface when > cable is unplugged. It was very disturbing behavior of Windows > machines for years. I've unplug cable to change switch port for only a > second and all connections are broken, even if one second later > dhcpclient receive SAME lease! I don't like this. FreeBSD was very > tolerant to unplugging cable for eons, and I (and not only me) like > it. If I understand this change properly, it is no more the case :( > Oh, this is certainly exciting for clients in the backbone when a switch will be reloaded because of firmware upgrade. This behavior was a reason for me to run MS machines only virtual instead using fix IP addresses (using ip arp inspection and dhcp snooping on the whole network so fix IPs are a no-go)