From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 22:37:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCDA106567D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE5A8FC08 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethos.thought.org (ethos.thought.org [10.47.0.180]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7IMamlV017797; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20080818035732.56348313.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20080817220431.GA1187@thought.org> <20080818001426.0fb09ff7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20080817233006.GC3376@thought.org> <20080818020238.1a7a8013.freebsd@edvax.de> <1219020103.4994.21.camel@localhost> <20080818035732.56348313.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:36:37 -0700 Message-Id: <1219098997.4994.151.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kde troubles.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:04 -0000 On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 03:57 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:41:42 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 02:02 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > Yes, since I need to use FreeBSD 7 after an accident destroying all > > > my data where fsck cannot help anymore, and FreeBSD 7 and it's > > > software does not behave the way I think it should... :-( > > > After my Nov., 1999 disk failure, I found that my 4G tape had overwritten stuff; I lost 10 months of data files. .... . > > > > i know the feeling. > > It's not that I want to complain, I'll stay with FreeBSD, > I'm just a little upset. Things behave much slower, allthough > the system boots faster. X and the applications seem to eat up > every bit of performance boost the new OS gave them. > Are you using gcc 4.3 with -O3? I have noticed that 4.3 generates faster binaries. Still, I cringe with 7.0. I haven't tried to compute the 7th root of infinity yet, :-) ... . > In the "good old times", you could update your applications > and they ran faster on the same hardware. That's what I've loved > FreeBSD for. Today, the applications run slower after every > update, so I have to update my hardware in order to just keep > the speed? > ....Sounds like DOS/Windows. Every new release, Intel counts up its $billions in faster uprocessors. With our stuff, it may be X11 and possibly sloppy hacking. I can't tell since I just gave away my old 750MHz for a 2.4GHz Dell. > (Off topic, sorry.) > > > > > xdm works very well, but only tried logging in as root. > > missing .xsession and .ctwmrc that i used more many, Many years. > > > > i'll tell you, after using FBSD since 2.0.5, i'm ready to give omething > > prepackaged a try. > > The only things I do compile is wirld, kernel, and mplayer. > For everything else, pkg_add -r is very welcome. > > By the way, compiling lasts much longer in FreeBSD 7. I think > this is due to more optimization, but from 1 to 9 hours... > what's wrong here?! Examples, please? ball-park [estimates] for times are okay. The worst ting for me is re-compiling OO > > Of course, xdm won't give you the functionality that kdm > offers. A nice replacement for xdm, by the way, is wdm, > which you can use together with Windowmaker, but without it, > too. Especially if you want to use different window managers, > wdm allows a simple means to switch them at login time. > Ah, you may be the perfect man to ask about this multi-wm launch daemon. I saw it once a long, long time ago. I would really like to try different window managers. I used ctwm for Years, but that sseemed to limit my use of certain apps. Mostly in the Gnome/KDE world. Soooo, bit bit bit I got used to the default gnome desktop/wm on my Ubuntu computer. I wound up trying KDE and used it until it finally broke after a power surge or power-out. What are your top w managers? > > > > To the LIST: I found my missing .xinitrc. but now my .xsession file is > > gone. > > This is my ~/.xsession: It allows sourcing of the settings > from ~/.cshrc (because the C shell is my usual dialog shell) > and then executes ~/.xinitrc: > > #!/bin/csh > source ~/.cshrc > exec ~/.xinitrc > > So you can keep all your settings in ~/.xinitrc, for example: > > #!/bin/sh > xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc > xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a > xset b 100 1000 15 & > xset r rate 250 30 & > xset s off & > xset -dpms & > exec wmaker > > Both files are +x attributes. > o I'll try your startup config, thanks. Sometimes I'll get up but my xmodmap never touch my rc file; bothers me. > > > > going to reboot after rm'ing kdm.pid. > > You should be able to restart kdm from the console, but I think > your setting includes automatic kdm start after system startup, > controlled by /etc/ttys. > Right. There is a way of havving gnome boot into graphics mode, but since I'm a CLI type ----except for Xterms ----, I like to see the console. The portupgrade finished; time to reboot and see if that fixed anything. >