From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 13:58:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9B8ED72 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F2E73E0 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oiaz123 with SMTP id z123so18883214oia.3 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ltbxMg7rPKge/7SYJW97ggp6FsTLBHsmexIa9ZfIAzY=; b=GM879eAUACn8J4hgp2/lEKD4hqPkydyhBM0DBjSZlgbDPcPNLk3ho5X3lRS31VgN/Q iKILIUoag5nTg/rwtw+qRTdp22s+0PXEPoZgOOdgI65wnVU9gUxbhJ0GD/fs3/2yTbbh WopcHXbLUl/hQRykaZRT+i65P/OMAfM1VU8cd0YJFHgPCetx1bk0rF2JEE+B/++CBy8l Vi8x6gkwuyZOeZF4oCJ4S3Fphl5Yvl35jonvftINnyUzmgIRUAesTm/ISSDbnKX3f784 770GwkCcpJA1xHe0eNcgOHpnN/WRNqubtBY/5DpxC+GUoTk7Y+AxcoQVrCIMA++yomeh F/Gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.28.69 with SMTP id z5mr9236749obg.58.1426427927936; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.100.47 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:28:47 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The mail server situation From: Amitabh Kant To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:49 -0000 On Sunday 15 March 2015, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to set up a mail server on a new FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64) > machine. It is turning into quite a challenge, which I am having to persist > with simply because I had set up qmail to work nicely 9 years back for > another company on 5.3 or (5.4). > > I suppose every administrator for mail faces the following situation when > taking up a mail server migration : > > 1) email user addresses are existing and have to be served via IMAP/POP + > SMTP as in place (except elementary re-configuration on the client). The > server has a public, static IP bound to an MX record (or so I believe) > 2) access to mail via web > 3) spam control via any working plugin like spamassassin > 4) optional support for ssl/tls/ipv6 (although I would frankly like all of > these locked up in their own jails) > > There are tons of HowTo's out there on the web, all suffering from similar > symptoms : > > 1) Broken : it turns out that qmail is not even working on FreeBSD 10.1. > God knows why the port was shipped in the first place > 2) Very poor documentation. FreeBSD's famed handbook is a starting > example. It begins the mail section with the presumption that the user does > not know what is email and tries to define it in terms of traditional mail. > (I wonder why the authors even have to presume that the user is acquainted > with the concept of mail). Then it moves to sendmail configuration which > begins with the presumption that the user is already aware of terms like > CONNECT, RELAY and SKIP. As far as I am concerned, RELAY means giving a > letter for my girl-friend to a go-between I trust. SKIP means hopping in > the air exactly once when I receive a reply. (Hopping is more difficult to > define, but you can try the dictionary) > > Is there any mail server which : > > a) just works with basic commandline skills like > cd/ls/grep/sed/awk/tar/find/locate (and of course, the famous copy and > paste) > b) the documentation for which works as it is on 10.1 amd64 without making > too many excuses > > You can try and discourage me with stuff like "Read online documentation". > But that only opens up the discussion to many more naive administrators who > will pound mailing lists with help questions. > > -- > Regards, > > Manish Jain > > > > _________________________ > FWIW, I had much better experience using Postfix on FreeBSD till 9.x . Haven't used it in a while, but should not be much of a problem even with 10.x . Stopped using qmail after FreeBSD 6, so not much of an idea anymore with it. Amitabh