From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Tue Sep 1 12:02:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E1B9C842B for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA501F9A for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from nine.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BBBC630; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nine.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1C7F1C90; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:02:23 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Benjamin Kaduk , freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a policy to delay & batch errata security alerts ? References: <201508311235.t7VCYm3c005189@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:02:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <201508311235.t7VCYm3c005189@fire.js.berklix.net> (Julian H. Stacey's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:34:47 +0200") Message-ID: <86zj16cpps.fsf@nine.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 12:02:32 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > But alerting pre existing issues just after new releases will reduce > security for all who can't spare enough time, so must skip the flood. We can't always hold back a release, even when there are known issues. Users are waiting for it, release engineers need to move on to other work, and the very fact that we're holding it back with no explanation and no visible activity tells people that something is up. Also, how long are we going to hold it? There is *never* a point in time where the security team does not know of or suspect at least one issue in a current or upcoming release. The line has to be drawn somewhere. In the case of 10.2, the three ENs published on 2015-08-18 were for issues that would only affect a very small minority of users, and the expat issue was not raised until the release was almost complete. The ENs and SAs published on 2015-08-25 were either unknown or still in the very early investigation phase at the time of the release. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no