From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 1 11:12:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from nimitz.ca.sandia.gov (nimitz.ca.sandia.gov [146.246.243.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A5415AB4 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@nimitz.ca.sandia.gov) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by nimitz.ca.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA78411; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199910011811.LAA78411@nimitz.ca.sandia.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI disk naming problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:54:00 PDT." <199910011754.KAA19866@george.lbl.gov> From: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Url: http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1773480329P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:11:27 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1773480329P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, jin@george.lbl.gov wrote: > > See LINT on details of how to wire down scsi devices... > > > > Your proposal doesn't take adding a second scsi card into account. > > Well, I did not mean that has to be da0, da1, etc., but similar thing > like dac0t0d0, dac0t1d0, ... dac3t4d0, etc. which is much clear what > disk is. > A few people does not like this one because the name is long, and it > is like some commerical configuration. They said that this is Free > software. That's an interesting argument on the part of a few people. The commercial UNIX I first adminned had wired down, short names for disks (rz0, rz1, rz2, ... ). This was very nice. > Manually wiring down disks is OK for a small set of hosts. 100+ hosts > with two or three controllers with 100 TB disks will be terribly pain > during the setup and maintenance. It depends on what you mean by "manually". Presumably, these 100+ hosts have fairly similar kernel configurations, so you only need to build a small number of "wired down" kernels, and then distribute these out to the hosts. I've found that that having wired down SCSI devices is a Good Thing (TM), and it's one of the first things that I fix when I start building kernels for a new version of FreeBSD. I guess I've just gotten used to it. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1773480329P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: LUlwlEqos4FKUwuTyJe6dOjm71Z501J+ iQA/AwUBN/T5T9jKMXFboFLDEQKZTACfV0f4P7b1WTBqgKINiB/OCsOiOWQAnjh7 eIJZOFOBd5sTIvG5r6eaNhyq =t+w5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1773480329P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message