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From: "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org>
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To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
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Subject: Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab)
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On 10 Jan 2001, at 11:24, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> These changes have been tested in OpenBSD for 3 years.
That's a relatively smaller user-base compared to FreeBSD. Do you
consider that sufficient?
> The "solution"
> is _not_ to tell people they're stupid to schedule jobs during the
> changeover. It has nothing to do with them. If they want jobs at 2am
> in the morning, that's cool. The fact the changeover is a problem is
> cron-specific. It shouldn't be trying to be clever and work with local
> time when local time does weird things like randomly add and remove time
> from existence. However, since it _does_ have this "feature", we should
> accomodate people who are negatively affected by it. It _will_ fix the
> twice-yearly complaint about extra and missing jobs. It may create
> unexpected behaviour for a tiny percentage. Those people should be
> reading the release notes ("or they shouldn't be system administrators
> or run FreeBSD").
I don't see how the above relates to my point about sufficient testing. It
seems to be a repeat of what you've said before.
> Again, this change is from OpenBSD. We will synchronise with their
> changes, and perhaps offer them back a patch to ignore what "ultra leet
> sysadmins who rely on broken behaviour because people who don't are
> simply stupid and shouldn't be running FreeBSD anyway!" with an option.
Maybe I'm stupid. I couldn't parse that. But I get the drift.
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