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Date:      Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:33:40 -0700
From:      Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To:        Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
Cc:        Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com>, Rick Macklem <rmacklem@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-projects@freebsd.org" <svn-src-projects@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r362798 - in projects/nfs-over-tls/sys/rpc: . rpcsec_tls
Message-ID:  <20200630163340.GN58278@kduck.mit.edu>
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:20:45PM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote:
> Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> >On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:49 AM Rick Macklem <rmacklem@freebsd.org<mailto:rmacklem@freebsd.org>> wrote:
> >Author: rmacklem
> >Date: Tue Jun 30 14:49:51 2020
> >New Revision: 362798
> >URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362798
> >
> >Log:
> >  Testing when a server does not respond to TLS handshake records exposed
> >  a couple of problems, since the daemon would be in SSL_connect() for 6 minutes.
> >
> >  - When the upcall timed out and was retried, the RPCTLS_SYSC_CLSOCKET syscall
> >    was broken and did not return an error upon a retry. It allocated a file
> >    descriptor for a NULL socket.
> >  - The socket structure in the kernel could be free'd while the daemon was
> >    still using it in SSL_connect().
> >  - Adjust the timeout a retry count so that upcalls are only attempted once
> >    with a 10minute timeout.
> >
> >
> >10 minutes seems really long!  It sounds from the description like the upcall so >that
> >userspace can run SSL_connect() was taking 6 minutes, and you needed 10 >minutes so
> >as to be longer than the 6 minutes that is "out of your control"?
> Well, I think a long timeout here is ok, since a timeout indicates a broken daemon.
> (The upcalls to the local daemon should be reliable and cannot safely be redone.
>  In a perfect world, the upcall mechanism would be "exactly once" instead of
>  "at least once". I think an upcall might fail when the mbuf pool in the kernel
>  is exhausted, but that should be rare.)
> 
> >I feel like there should be some sockopts available to get the SSL_connect() timeout
> >down, so that the upcall timeout doesn't need to be so long, either.
> Yes, 6 minutes does seem like a long time. I only discovered this yesterday when
> I simulated a server that did not respond to handshake records.
> 
> I haven't yet dug into the openssl code to see if there is a way to adjust this
> timeout.
> I also do not know what a good timeout value for SSL_connect() might be,
> even if the daemon can override the default.
> 
> In practice, this should only happen when trying to do an NFS mount on
> a broken server which responds to the "STARTTLS" Null RPC, but does not
> do the handshake.
> Having the mount attempt stuck for 6minutes before failing is not that serious
> a problem, imho.
> (When systems boot after something like a power failure, delays getting NFS
>  mounts done, due to the NFS server/network needing to be up, is fairly
>  normal. The "-b" option to put the mount attempt in background has been
>  around for a long time for this.)
> 
> If you happen to know how to set a timeout for SSL_connect() in the openssl
> library, I would be interested in hearing that.

As it happens, I took a look before I wrote the initial note, and there
doesn't seem to be any intrinsic TLS (not DTLS) handshake timeouts in
libssl itself; I expect this is actually just the (kernel's!) TCP timeout.
So you'd be getting the socket fd (e.g., SSL_get_fd(), if you don't have a
reference already) and using setsockopt() to set the timeout(s).

-Ben



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