From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Oct 19 09:17:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC862A184F2 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 775F619DB for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo6ZK-000Dq4-Lt; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:17:26 +0300 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:17:26 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Perry Hutchison Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, yonas@fizk.net, mexas@bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde Message-ID: <20151019091726.GG42243@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201510190611.t9J6BlEi066379@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> <5624af35.U4iOAx58HCM0SE69%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5624af35.U4iOAx58HCM0SE69%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:17:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 01:52:05AM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I use gbde. > > Can switch to geli, if required, > > but please provide detailed instructions > > for switching before removing gbde. > > Such instructions would presumably be included in the UPDATING > entry. > > An additional consideration: If there is no convert-in-place > mechanism -- i.e. the only way to convert a gbde FS to geli is to > backup, wipe, and restore (thus involving considerable downtime) > -- it will give some unknown number of production users a strong > motivation to freeze at [last version of FreeBSD to include gbde > support]. This must be show-stoper for removing gbde.