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Date:      Wed, 21 May 1997 17:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Ron G. Minnich" <rminnich@Sarnoff.COM>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   installing 2.2.1
Message-ID:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.970521171731.14320A-100000@terra>

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I just spent a few hours installing freebsd 2.2.1. I have also recently 
been installing linux; we use both here. The fbsd system still does not 
quite boot. Given how good freebsd is, and how much I like the system and 
the people who work on it, I am reluctant to voice any complaint. On the 
other hand, we need to be realistic about the state of things. The basic 
sum total experience is that: 
1) linux install works well and consistently
2) freebsd install does not work well or consistently
3) the freebsd 2.05R install worked much better for me than any subsequent
   fbsd install tool.

problems: 
1) install segvs (signal 11) if you try to ftp to a remote machine too 
    many times. The disk was left in such a state that win95 would hang
    when it got to that disk. I had to boot dos and blow the disk 
    partition away. 
2) the install choices are confusing. For example, when selecting what 
   to install (kernel-developer etc.) if i select all, does it include
   kernel source or not? Things get 'auto-selected' and it is not clear 
   what that includes
3) I have two disks. At some point early in the game 
   it says if I don't try to write the MBR
   I'll be asked to later. I'm never asked to. There's no menu choice for
   'fix boot record'. I have a second ide disk which won't boot. It 
   also mentions bootez, about which I can find no further mention. 
   There is a 'nextboot' -- do i use that? I've never been that happy 
   with the boot setup since 2.05R days -- that was the last time I used
   it that it worked well. 
4) packages: there needs to be an 'install all, i have much disk' option. 
   
Rather than continue the list, I would recommend to those trying to get
this install process set up that they buy red hat and try installing it. 
Linux is not my cup of tea for most things, but the install is definitely
much easier. It might provide some useful ideas. 

If you don't like linux, then get a bsdi system and install that. It's 
also quite nice. 

ron

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