From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:11:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C52D16A421 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fooler@skyinet.net) Received: from smtp1.skyinet.net (smtp1.skyinet.net [202.78.97.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB49A43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fooler@skyinet.net) Received: from fooler (fooler.ilo.skyinet.net [202.78.118.66]) by smtp1.skyinet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C1CFD58417; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:11:25 +0800 (PHT) Message-ID: <107901c581f1$933e4400$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> From: "fooler" To: "Jesper Wallin" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <200507051428.j65ESjJu001522@caligula.anu.edu.au><42CAA478.7010806@hackunite.net> <86br5gpk72.fsf@xps.des.no> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:11:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Darren Reed Subject: Re: packets with syn/fin vs pf_norm.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:11:29 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dag-Erling Smørgrav" To: "Jesper Wallin" Cc: ; "Darren Reed" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: packets with syn/fin vs pf_norm.c > The TCP_DROP_SYNFIN option should be removed; it has long outlived its > original purpose (which was to prevent nmap identification of IRC > servers which didn't run ipfw for performance reasons, back in the 3.0 > days) i vote not to remove because it just an option there whether you want it or not for added protection for OS fingerprinting... standard tcp is the most rampant used than t/tcp and most (or all) tcp modules are not combining syn + fin flag in a tcp datagram for normal tcp transaction... fooler.