From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 22:28:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E51AA5F0 for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B124CC63 for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id v10so2029271pde.1 for ; Mon, 05 May 2014 15:28:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=ZMGMHHV1+7blbgekHjUArZB8P9+t87yzFSBOlK/vLrg=; b=aWbYxFmdXB7V7mbVkRRVh6py+eyh07egSAZn0hzCogksxh7l97LprzFGJT7CYUWgps yCXKnRS0fYmhBfKEeZ2L8gTAa5ZwgT4WDXb5nCzOvSv72OgDFXSXXx1RP83JYwaHjDxA DWdnSPXmiJ4NWL5e+3IKmDKNlDxBY+kTdjFI0amXkFJJuI9LRhzPxUmNDKLN28ypryz6 mp/n20J5NiA2HL8TD12ebKITPHh0+el+HYSsKrd8821Q/gNbGAcI8qHn8O5XpN/vmsuD 4JpvPBdCE/um/hA5EsSZR8o3bRPY+J3TvtJXlx9I1qh7cz5ewu/hPw/6tsdVwp4LUFu/ Yy0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmzuGAwwdB3qmhOxQH7AH0qJn5WcW1yrlfufX8H6CIovV9xR40Kel7uw1a7+EU8vqfruQTd X-Received: by 10.66.241.66 with SMTP id wg2mr77486721pac.132.1399328896964; Mon, 05 May 2014 15:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.64.26.239] (dc1-prod.netflix.com. 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From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <611243783F62AF48AFB07BC25FA4B1061CACCBA2@DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:28:12 -0600 Message-Id: <6C95A28F-2A57-414C-B0F2-4E5D279F13DC@bsdimp.com> References: <20140422202506.GA63561@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140422214610.GC63561@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <611243783F62AF48AFB07BC25FA4B1061CACCBA2@DLREXMBX01.intra.dlr.de> To: Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Cc: sjg@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, bapt@freebsd.org, jmmv@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 22:28:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_59CF3CFE-8BF4-4991-95FF-A2B26FF1178C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 [picking a message at random to reply to] I plan on removing WITHOUT_BMAKE and only supporting with bmake. I=92ll = leave it to others to deorbit fmake, but I think it is premature to = delete just yet. I have partial patches to do this, that should be = complete this week. bmake and fmake are based on the make that appeared in 4.3 and 4.4 BSD = and have evolved under separate lines for some time, with occasional = cross pollination. Warner On May 5, 2014, at 5:41 AM, Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've seen that you've copied all the make tests over to usr.bin/make = with a comment that they are fmake-only. According to your question they = are to be removed. >=20 > Isn't bmake based on some version of fmake? In fact several of these = tests check for bugs that I've fixed in our fmake some years ago. Are = they now reintroduced via the bmake import? Wouldn't it make sense to = retain the tests that apply to bmake? >=20 > In fact most of these tests are for rather basic things and if they do = not work in bmake then things are broken. >=20 > When I worked on make I found it rather strange that one of the most = basic programs has no tests altogether. So I recommend to make them work = rather to remove them. >=20 > harti >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Julio Merino > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:14 AM > To: Baptiste Daroussin > Cc: sjg@freebsd.org; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Can fmake be deleted? >=20 > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Baptiste Daroussin = wrote: >>> - Can fmake be removed from base even if ports hasn't yet dropped = its=20 >>> support for fmake? >>=20 >> Yes as right now we do support both >=20 > So, given this and that there has been no comment otherwise for 10 = days... I take it that I could remove fmake from the tree anytime soon. = (Whether I have the time to do so or not is another story ;-) = _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list = http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Apple-Mail=_59CF3CFE-8BF4-4991-95FF-A2B26FF1178C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTaBB9AAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEASiwQALPnxxG+yIml1QnFM998MbJI IfkXUBAUEKuFN7TOpfKAqbMhg7m6ykXGnJJG+b64bibv2ttFI0SF2ojWCf0Hq55u ZR1BgilE4gnIG7z1tGWajdGdQP+z+eCa7aub+uNRsZnRSnSOxhx2PyN7OoWXs3pM eo7aeUkJolQ1K7nIknMkuFNvpSJlHJCBu9Gcu004Wmk7b40W8oukuYi13dy/toIK JAAPT7AakCtj0T8k0K9TLDZg+9qO/cxofSWH2G2KKPQar9V0rRHm4/QOV4ybEmiF XD73qp1PAfUQvBwMyCj0UNg5ZpMNF37NpzqPmNxp4KFFiWQWwtEF22hHm8XBbvwh XnnyJtNdTLBZtPZN7g+jHiYsTwg+xO/1m8i/imvN0btORVhC4PG2u+pL+L8xRP3g qApKGOYUJkGr5Y7F535ojlagXTBdx201lXPH5hZRWFuvD+kKYQaY08J5VPQhdEwx yNDvWus6wq6+QoAHAEMIAVZZNGlaUrYWaFBen+1XmPXUBhJxM87O32QKjjHrjqDH 4XHNoV9262oUfhZTDmV1h6jJQsU7g7+ppUDVWrekWueXKic4zqXbsDf2rxyCr0Sa j4Ek9ZPhrgqfIde1uuR8wq4gJkg1FP2kbRxH1P3X3f0/lEiEt+E+VxuTYU1cgvAB K+47RXu3SA1ktRD2RUzE =zPvZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_59CF3CFE-8BF4-4991-95FF-A2B26FF1178C--