From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 14 10:57:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1E16A4DD; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E0E43D58; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:57:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9710D2085; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:57:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on tim.des.no Received: from xps.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7862084; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:57:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EA12833C24; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:57:33 +0200 (CEST) From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) To: Ruslan Ermilov References: <200608101942.k7AJgOrB051336@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060811235619.G93570@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <20060811220244.GC5237@rambler-co.ru> <20060811223642.GA21117@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060812005213.384b744b@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20060812084253.GA8597@rambler-co.ru> <20060812123531.GA36569@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060813185551.GA15783@rambler-co.ru> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:57:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20060813185551.GA15783@rambler-co.ru> (Ruslan Ermilov's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:55:51 +0400") Message-ID: <864pwfwpnm.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Leidinger , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: cvs commit: src ObsoleteFiles.inc X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:57:41 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov writes: > touch(1) is not an install tool. It should be a build tool. It is used during buildkernel and installworld, causing upgrades to break every so often (especially when upgrading across a libc version bump, IIRC). BTW, if you just need to ensure that a file exists, a safe alternative to 'touch ${FILE}' is ':>>${FILE}'. Makefiles in src/sys/modules which use touch should probably be updated to use this instead. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no