From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 26 14:15:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EB537B40A for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988B43F75 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:15:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a161.otenet.gr [212.205.215.161]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2QMF7h1010721; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 00:15:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2QMF5OF019866; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 00:15:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2QIsGxD019156; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:54:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:54:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin Karlsson Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: quotation marks in HTML output Message-ID: <20030326185416.GH18515@gothmog.gr> References: <20030326050104.GA1514@c-303a70d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030326050104.GA1514@c-303a70d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.2(snapshot 20021217) (terpsi) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-14.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-26 06:01, Martin Karlsson wrote: > Just out of curiosity: Why do quotation marks, in the HTML docs, appear > as ``example'' instead of "example"? More specifically, why does the > style-sheet /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl convert[1] > example to ``example'' and not to "example"? > > Searching the archives, I found a thread from Feb 2002, > > Message-ID:<3C652A94.2070906@pittgoth.com> > URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=546854+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-doc/20020210.freebsd-doc > > in which this was discussed, but not resolved. Is this a typographic > convention, or simply a FreeBSD-doc-ism? It's a long standing typographical convention, which I do prefer in all printed material, given the proper fonts and letter-form. Alas, today, most of the fonts that people use have these ugly, stupid marks that look bizarre instead of proper back-quotes and short, thin, vertical lines instead of proper right quotes. This makes ``example'' look terrible. Most notably, in HTML browsers, the right part looks some times like ``example" which is hurting my eyes and looks very unpleasant. For these reasons, I'd probably support switching to double quotes like "...." for HTML output. But only for HTML output. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message