From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 20 19:22:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41239D74; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep20.mx.upcmail.net (fep20.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D6BF2E; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge04.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.239]) by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.13 201-2260-151-135-20130320) with ESMTP id <20140920192249.RDGS24820.viefep20-int.chello.at@edge04.upcmail.net>; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:22:49 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.60] ([95.96.229.21]) by edge04.upcmail.net with edge id tXNa1o0180ULilr01XNbBn; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:22:35 +0200 X-SourceIP: 95.96.229.21 Message-ID: <1411240906.1174.2.camel@rainbow-runner.nl> Subject: Re: x11/nvidia-driver (340.24/340.32/343.13): nvidia BLOB doesn't recognize any display socket on Lenovo E540/UEFI and FBSD CURRENT From: Koop Mast To: "O. Hartmann" Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:21:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20140920201347.0a4b9658.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <20140919201210.72650231.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140920161012.02844320.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140920191530.6b538c62.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140920201347.0a4b9658.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.6 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:22:53 -0000 On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 20:13 +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:15:30 +0200 > "O. Hartmann" schrieb: > > > Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:27:27 -0600 (MDT) > > Warren Block schrieb: > > > > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > > > > > Am Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:36:21 -0600 (MDT) > > > > Warren Block schrieb: > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> nVidia's BLOB from port x11/nvidia-driver seems to have problems in FreeBSD > > > >>> 11.0-CURRENT #2 r271869: Fri Sep 19 13:28:03 CEST 2014 amd64, on Lenovo ThinkPad > > > >>> Edge E540 laptop with CPU i5-4200M (Haswell) with integrated HD4600 Intel iGPU and > > > >>> dedicated nVidia GT 740M (Optimus) working correctly. > > > >> > > > >> Optimus is supposed to be full Intel graphics plus an Nvidia GPU. The > > > >> extra GPU uses the same display memory and can be enabled to speed up > > > >> the Intel graphics or disabled for power saving. I don't know if > > > >> versions where the Nvidia section is a full discrete video adapter that > > > >> can be used alone are still called "Optimus". > > > >> > > > >> Some Optimus owners have reported being able to use the Intel drivers > > > >> after disabling the Nvidia GPU in the BIOS or UEFI. If an option to > > > >> disable the Nvidia GPU is not present, some people have reported success > > > >> with an xorg.conf that uses only the intel driver and ignores the Nvidia > > > >> hardware. > > > > > > > > Thanks Warren. > > > > > > > > But this sounds even more frustrating now. I look around the web even at Lenovo's > > > > support forum. Many people report the GT 740M nVidia adaptor as a discrete adaptor > > > > with Optimus technology and everything sounds to me like it can be selected > > > > exclusively. What you describes is that I definitely need to use the HD4600 iGPU on > > > > FreeBSD in the first place since the nVidia hardware is a kind of "appendix" to the > > > > HD4600. > > > > > > Optimus started out that way, but they might use the same name now for > > > models where the additional GPU is a full discrete adapter. > > > > I tried to retrieve informations about the settings and implementations in the lenovo > > E540, but I guess the only answer can be given by developer documentation. I can not > > figure out how the GPU is attached to the system. The technical specifications do not > > mention the requirement of a iGPU and shared memory - as Optimus would require. > > > > But extrapolating from that "shit-covering" public relations talking at nVidia's site I > > guess the GT 740M is definitely a shared memory solution and requires the presence of > > the iGPU. That would explain why the nvidia BLOB is detecting the GPU, but can not find > > any physical display socket, not even the built-in LCD. They're maybe wired all throught > > the Haswell's HD4600 iGPU? > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I also tried to configure X11 as HD4600 only and X11 doesn't work properly: > > > > it doesn't even start up and loading the "intel" driver complains about a missing > > > > device > > > > - preceeded by a lot of /dev/dri errors. This indicates to me, in a naiv manner, > > > > that this HD4600 isn't recodnized by the kernel, either. I do not see any kind of > > > > vga0: entry in the kernel log when enabling "Integrated Graphics" only in the > > > > laptop's UEFI/Firmware. When enabling "nVidia Optimus", a recognized vga0: device > > > > shows up. > > > > > > Whoops, HD4600 is Haswell. The intel driver on FreeBSD does not support > > > Haswell video yet. > > > > > > I suspected that :-( > > > > Thanks anyway, > > > > Oliver > > Oh, by the way, where is x11-drivers/xf86-video-noveau? I can only find > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv, which covers old hardware and it is not applicable to the GT > 740M (complains, rightfully, that the found device isn't supported by the "nv" driver). > > I face a mess here ... :-( It was removed, because we missing kernel support for the nouveau driver.