From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 28 02:01:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA13666 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13652; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00632; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:11:23 +0200 (MET DST) To: Terry Lambert cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), rkw@shark.dataplex.net, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I wrong or is this just stupid?r In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:10:43 PDT." <199608272310.QAA25610@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:11:23 +0200 Message-ID: <630.841216283@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199608272310.QAA25610@phaeton.artisoft.com>, Terry Lambert writes: >Richard really can't ask for this without offending people, since he is >asking for a fiat, effectively: he wants it acknowdleged that if he takes >it on, it's his bailiwick, to do with as he pleases. > >Probably, he would be better off contacting the core team directly for >that kind of assignation. > >But he's not wrong to want the assurances in the first place. Yes, he can have that assurance, but we will >not< guarantee to adopt his code until we see it. We're not a corporation, there is no money, budgets or other artificial restraints. We have earlier, in jest, adopted the IETF mantra: "... we belive in rough concensus and working code." Everybody else works under this rule, so must Rick. If he thinks he can make a new set of makefiles that will be much better, he goes away and does it. as soon as he has something that works a little bit, he sends it out as a patch, asking for comments, and after a few cycles, unless he has made it absolutely clear that he hasn't understood a word of it all (which I don't think is even remotely possible in this case) his code will be adopted with a eagerness proportional to the net improvement it brings. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.