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Subject: Re: How to Use ddb(4)?
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Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On Thursday 27 July 2006 20:40, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>> maksim yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net> writes:
>>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> writes:
>>>> No, kbdmux needs to be fixed so it works in DDB.
>>> actually, atkbd(4) needs to be fixed to support "polled" mode :)
>> It used to work fine before kbdmux(4) came along...
>>
> 
> Just a comment: Don't forget to lock Giant before calling anything in the 
> keyboard layer. That means DDB must lock Giant, else at least my new USB 
> keyboard driver will panic, saying Giant is not owned. The old USB keyboard 
> driver did not care about this.

well, there is more work to it, imo. we will have to address this when 
new usb sub-system comes into the three.

thanks,
max