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Date:      Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:32:11 +0100
From:      Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: more -current testers
Message-ID:  <20020219193211.GA1785@raggedclown.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org>
References:  <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org>

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On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more
> -current testers.
> 
> We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very
> sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit
> patches to fix all their issues.  I would guess that we all also agree
> that that's not going to happen.
> 
> It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the
> braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to
> donate some time to us.
> 
> I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current,
> including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger
> prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from
> -current, and so on.  I would also make it clear when to not bother
> filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS?  Sorry,
> enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three
> articles, running about a month and a half.
> 
> The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each
> article.  One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a
> few bug reports.
> 
> My question to the community is: is it too early to do this?  If I
> start now, the articles would probably appear April-May.

I think this is an absolutely splendid idea :)
I have enough resources to run a STABLE system for my day-to-day use
and also have a -CURRENT system I am more than willing to spend some
time on. I think some good pointers on what is required to provide
useful feedback (as opposed to bug reports that are not adequately
filled in) and some practical tips would really encourage people.

My first question is who or what is WITNESS :)

-- 
Regards
   Cliff Sarginson -- <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>

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