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[165.227.238.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z66sm13983591wmc.4.2021.05.21.08.52.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 21 May 2021 08:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (horror [local]) by horror (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 3114c80b; Fri, 21 May 2021 16:52:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:52:00 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Warner Losh Cc: Conrad Meyer , Michael Gmelin , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r8Fh+dWp4mSv0ubn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FmrhL73MJz4t96 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] --r8Fh+dWp4mSv0ubn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 08:36:49AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it di= fferently on stable > > vs > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose f= orm, which > > > isn=E2=80=99t the default). > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, but I > > would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there is a > > default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who does not. > > Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone who does not know > > how to get rid of it, then it should default to not being displayed, > > IMHO. > > >=20 > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > the old behavior. >=20 > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. Sounds good. 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