From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 17 13:28:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAE337B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7582643E77 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021117212843.BFCO2683.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:28:43 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAHLQHd8037619; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:26:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gAHLQ2XA037614; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." Cc: "Lefteris Tsintjelis" , "Peter Hoskin" , "Marc G. Fournier" , "Hununu" , Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? References: <20021117115616.T301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> <3DD6EEA0.AD524CA2@ene.asda.gr> <006601c28ddf$604010f0$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:26:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: <006601c28ddf$604010f0$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." writes: > It depends on your point of view. -CURRENT is noted as occasionally > being broken to the point that it won't even build. Which is also true of -STABLE, except for the "is noted" part. Besides unavoidable ordinary screwups, not yet caught and fixt, it can also be for the avoidable reason that the cvs/cvsup mechanism doesn't allow for "atomic" changes to the repository (or maybe it's just not used). As a work-around, someone has suggested running "cvsup" repeatedly until changes stop happening (over the course of a few minutes, I suppose). I agree with the guy who said we should call these releases (not to be confused with "RELEASE"s) by better names. But he needn't have worried about not changing names in CVS because they already have other names there; eg, -CURRENT is "HEAD". (IIRC, there's already third name for essentially the same thing, but I've forgotten what it is and it's probably no better than CURRENT, HEAD, STABLE, or worse, names like RELEASE_4 which is either not a release or is hundreds of releases so that either the first part or last part of the name is confusing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message