From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 2 17:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA05153 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05042 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14210 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Oct 1997 00:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha-092597 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Arizona Coyote , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: How to be rude, miss the point and feel good about it Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Formal Apology From Simonh Shapiro to The whole iInternet, FreeBSD in particular and one unnamed dessert four legged creature. In an attempt to contribute back to this fine community and project some of the great benefits I personally gained, and my employer has gained, we decided to put the technology of Distributed Lock Manager up for public review, with an eye, once it has stabilized, towards contributing it to the project. I have announced some key features, avialability plans, etc. on the Freebsd-hackers mailing list. I have kept all the replies which had an indication of interest in them. Few days ago, I finally fot the code and documentation to a somewhat presentable manner and decided in my eternal stupidity and ignorance of good manners to create a little mailing list and subscribe to it those who replied with interest. A single mail message went out to those interested parties, announcing what is available. A short message afterwards announced a patch release. Apparently, this is an abhorable abomination and I was severely admonished for my transgression. The range of admonitions was wide. Some simply asked to be removed from the list. Some demanded to know how I got their name and some decided to teach me a lesson and raid the ftp/mail server with junk mail. The message below I like the best. It is polite, to the point and an excellent way to teach someone he/she made an etiquette mistake. If I thought for a moment that this is representative of our little community, I would have thought long and hard about being part of it. BTW, If one of my 6.5 children ever talked to me in that language... So, if any of you is interested in distributed computing rather than vandalism, or in distributed resource allocation than foul language, please drop me a line. If I offended any of you by following up on something YOU expressed written interest in, or if I mistook your interests and intent, I formally and publicly apologize. Simon ======================================================================= Hi Arizona Coyote; On 02-Oct-97 you wrote: > On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > > Hi Y'all. > > > > You are on this mailing list because you expressed (even a fleeting) > > interest in this subject. > > Yes, I use FreeBSD. Why does that give you the right to subscribe me to > your fucking SPAM list? > > > To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail message to: > > > > freebsd-dlm-unsubscribe@primer.i-connect.net > > Why should I have to unsubscribe to a list that i never willingly > subscribed to? > > > This list is dedicated to the review and discussion of Distributed Lock > > Managers. Since our initial implementation is on FreeBSD, it is the > > platform of choice for this discussion, at this time. > > This is starting to sound like fucking SPAM to me. > > > Some ground rules: > > No more fucking SPAM asshole! Get it? Now, --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313