Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 08:19:45 -0400 From: Ian FREISLICH <ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com> To: Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> Cc: x11-list freebsd <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver Message-ID: <f96acb89-3b15-b644-b6fb-e5550a4824fb@capeaugusta.com> In-Reply-To: <CAECmPwt%2BVZQht5CxHWOF2Yhyiuy-X59ovPD29Y95OGxAExKe%2Bw@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <98aaa85f-1433-e50d-3892-3c5fbff61b85@capeaugusta.com> <CAECmPwt%2BVZQht5CxHWOF2Yhyiuy-X59ovPD29Y95OGxAExKe%2Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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Johannes, On drm-stable Xorg no longer crashes on the first execution of Firefox, so that's an improvement. FWIW (and not to start a bikeshed discussion) stable in the context of FreeBSD has meant ABI stability, not crash-free. If you're going to rename the ports, I'd suggest "drm" and "drm-devel". Ian On 05/21/2018 03:30 PM, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Ian FREISLICH > <ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com <mailto:ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com>> > wrote: > > Niclas > > > On 05/18/2018 01:58 PM, Niclas Zeising wrote: > > [ Cross posted to freebsd-current@ and freebsd-x11@. Please > respect reply-to and send all replies to freebsd-x11@. Thanks! ] > > > Hi! > I propose that we remove the old drm2 driver (sys/dev/drm2) > from FreeBSD. I suggest the driver is marked as deprecated in > 11.x and removed from 12.0, as was done for other drivers > recently. Some background and rationale: > > The drm2 driver was the original port of a KMS driver to > FreeBSD. It was done by Konstantin Belousov to support Intel > graphics cards, and later extended by Jean-Sébastien Pédron as > well as Konstantin to match what's in Linux 3.8. This > included unstable support from Haswell, but nothing newer than > that. > > For quite some time now we have had the > graphics/drm-stable-kmod and graphics/drm-next-kmods which > provides support for modern AMD and Intel graphics cards. > These ports, together with the linuxkpi, or lkpi, has made it > significantly easier to port and update our graphics drivers. > Further, these new drivers cover the same drivers as the old > drm2 driver. > > What does the community think? Is there anyone still using > the drm2 driver on 12-CURRENT? If so, what is preventing you > from switching to the port? > > > I'm running -CURRENT on all my systems. I have a "3rd Gen" HD > Graphics 4000 that I'm running drm-next on but I'm about to revert > to drm2 because of instabilities. Xorg spontaneously crashes, and > doesn't on drm2. I also have a Haswell system running drm2 which I > have not tried drm-next because SWMBO is particularly intolerant > of stuff not working. > > > If drm-next-kmod is causing issues, please try drm-stable-kmod. (we > should really rename drm-next to drm-unstable/beta..) > > > I also ran drm-next successfully on a Sunrise Point-LP system with > "Intel UHD Graphics 620" because drm2 didn't support the graphics > chip before switching to linux to get the trackpad and sound working. > > I guess the situation is that your mileage may vary depending on > your system. I'm OK with installing drm2 from ports, but at this > point I'm not really OK with loosing drm2 at this stage because of > the instability in drm-next on my one system. > > Ian > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11>; > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > <mailto:freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" > > -- Ian Freislich +1 404 574 0228 --
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