From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 1 01:13:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A369B8870E for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vazquez@g.unicamp.br) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 949E82AD3 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vazquez@g.unicamp.br) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id a66so8604471wme.0 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=g-unicamp-br.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9sD7/F0cuYrAa3ArVwJZKwx6TZ5zCG61ogUp4rv6nkY=; b=fOkrI2hfbM9F5RLIYgaEGkGhosICOxFcgeaypQfrBlxYrLZz4cBK6+kRCpEsDi82eA 0X2j6Fgqetqh0JOlvHdxvpBkDV0ghU8lZTmh4/dAJT8LTHw+383XCom2Rq9BiYMlbURa NVxNE2d61H9r04Ykzb419mTjU57aZyi8Qd2SWMt/STU3hf/GROkIdnedCFxxzgl9EvlR W0thuIqo8Za9hVZe+m2NhX08/JIakroMG8Lak9TVz0749FHImj1MGX+eqVAH/weH6vqi Qeoe081Ji6I9AR7GwgiOD5Vgpj+fjSuUvOo2Wa+M9vT0NwX7c//f3F6koWauwsNPszZk kknA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9sD7/F0cuYrAa3ArVwJZKwx6TZ5zCG61ogUp4rv6nkY=; b=UT4vw8eHofTkWofyaMuOLpb+w8PNsJjI5l+/627CboQBKQ+28CVE3EQFuD86j4IxQe Z5zpcQkattyrGjVgRJUH0c+/SOE3nyqpY/0+2mmj1crf3IW3yJQyK18owLcNhNGaabBP +2xrub8n1UJ9vDlfEts4VW5RhbpN9l0OX8ewy0sBG3WkVkciLjQjrpUBtC68RLT6IaAg 7hSL4hgBelJ1bCxG3tr4CWTomi0BxtniZKfHDqYPL7LUAr2UscsKth2+lFetajzL9754 vUohMCCks3kV8xKIxWuUIl5HhtsssO+dsVLALDTgjHnvaAqpavczJjIRO3K7ezi+QWKI ZVZg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKQNUueGaH2ZVb5/m/+X6PCbC3G3lYxIKfellBdz8CyTMzbRE4aQ2Ioq3+5qa6kLzMg2/MqqDcoFZxvbg== X-Received: by 10.28.176.7 with SMTP id z7mr16407072wme.17.1467335591364; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:13:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.152.229 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:13:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160630175243.063e07a7@KoggyBSD.org> From: "Pedro A. M. Vazquez" Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:13:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Simple" Languages in FreeBSD To: Chris Hill Cc: Felix Friedlander , Allen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 01:13:14 -0000 Does FreeBSD needs an 'official' small language? Perl is a mature language I use a lot, Python is very good, Lua is smaller than both and very good too, I'm learning Lua now. *Uma na=C3=A7=C3=A3o "que queria ser moderna" recua no tempo e se coloca ao= lado de Honduras e Paraguai como pa=C3=ADses onde "presidentes eleitos foram afasta= dos de forma question=C3=A1vel", afirmam an=C3=A1lises sobre o impeachment de D= ilma* *na DW Brasil * 2016-06-30 21:34 GMT-03:00 Chris Hill : > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, Felix Friedlander wrote: > > On 1 Jul 2016, at 07:52, Allen wrote: >>> >>> > [ snip ] > > Anyway, in all these years that have passed using FreeBSD and a bunch >>> of Linux distros, I never had time or patience enough to learn >>> Programming Languages, and I'm getting more and more to the part where >>> I'm thinking it's a good idea more so now than before. >>> >>> I have the book "Learning Perl" that I bought a while back, and I've >>> also downloaded a bunch of stuff for Perl, Python, Ruby, and others, so >>> I'm just curious on basically what Languages anyone here would >>> recommend. >>> >>> Literally anyone who responds with an opinion, I'm interested. Being >>> easy to learn for someone who isn't great with Math but does understand >>> Unix is a plus but not a requirement. I was starting to teach myself >>> Ruby on a Linux box I was using for a while and Ruby did seem to be >>> going OK, but a lot of the FreeBSD Books I've bought recommend Perl, >>> and I've also had just as many reasons from people saying to try >>> Python, so basically any Language and what reasons would be great. >>> >>> -Allen >>> >> >> Hi Allen, >> >> Perl may have been the language of choice 10 or even 5 years ago, but >> unless you have a specific reason I would wholeheartedly recommend Pytho= n >> as a first language. It?s incredibly easy, very powerful, the standard >> library is amazing (you can implement a full SMTP server or web server i= n >> about 10 lines of Python) and it?s available on a huge number of platfor= ms, >> including FreeBSD. >> > > [ snip ] > > I'll second Felix's recommendation of Python. I'm only now learning it > myself, although I've been doing various kinds of programming "since 'Nam= ." > Python feels extremely flexible and powerful, but I'm sure it > has its problems as with any other language. For a book, I've been using > 'Introducing Python' by Bill Lubanovic (O'Reilly, ISBN 978-1-449-35936-2)= . > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >