From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 04:48:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F085316A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 04:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913AD43D2F for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 04:48:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j.schim@netmaniacs.nl) Received: from nietzsche.intra.bowtie.nl ([212.142.29.165]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nlESMTP <20040308124843.XNLU8729.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@nietzsche.intra.bowtie.nl>; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:48:43 +0100 Received: from hume.intra.bowtie.nl (hume.intra.bowtie.nl [192.168.4.13]) i28Cmg5r021201; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:48:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j.schim@netmaniacs.nl) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:48:42 +0100 From: Joao Schim To: Michal Pasternak Message-Id: <20040308134842.638ffd14.j.schim@netmaniacs.nl> In-Reply-To: <20040308120526.GA38679@pasternak.w.lub.pl> References: <20040308063951.VMBB16454.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp.bellnexxia.net> <20040308123841.7be93c08.j.schim@netmaniacs.nl> <20040308120526.GA38679@pasternak.w.lub.pl> Organization: NetManiacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Willie Viljoen Subject: Re: Desktop FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:48:47 -0000 You are right, That was an unneeded insult to the people doing their best to build a decent desktop environment. My sincere appologies to all affected. I obviously wasn't thinking straight. On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:05:26 +0100 Michal Pasternak wrote: > Joao Schim [Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:38:41PM +0100]: > > I really doubt the gnome or kde guys ever heard of usability. > > I really doubt you ever tried to create a user-friendly, open, documented > software (no matter, GUI or command-line). Try to do that, then come back > criticizing other people's work - I wonder if you will be presenting same > attitude by that time. > > > I'm not saying windows is all that, definitely not, but kde/gnome are > > just a nightmare for not-so-technical users. > > There is KDE Quality team, maybe you should submit the usability problems > you've found to them. Your opinion can change the situation. Ranting is > not an answer. > > > Besides that i can't really imagine why anybody would still believe > > that the 'windows method' of seeing files as icons and such are the way > > to go. > > It's actually 'Xerox method', and it is a bit older, than MS DOS, for > example. > > > Lets just take that and put it in a new BSD licensed desktop > > environment. Or atleast build a solid API for UI calls system wide. > > ... or at least stop trolling, while doing nothing useful. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"