From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Feb 15 13:53:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (pneumatic-tube.sgi.com [204.94.214.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9653137B401 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ledzep.americas.sgi.com (ledzep.americas.sgi.com [137.38.226.97]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id OAA01775; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:01:19 -0800 (PST) mail_from (cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from gibble.americas.sgi.com (gibble.americas.sgi.com [128.162.195.80]) by ledzep.americas.sgi.com (SGI-SGI-8.9.3/americas-smart-nospam1.1) with ESMTP id PAA90492; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:51:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gibble.americas.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1FLote10994; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:50:55 GMT Message-ID: <3A8C4F3E.43F4653C@thebarn.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:50:54 +0000 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1-XFS i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Zhiui Zhang , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Design a journalled file system References: <200102122306.QAA11325@usr08.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > > Yes, I'm still looking for a commercial license that prohibits > making XFS a stand-alone product, but still allows it be used > in a commercial setting. The Sun License on the original SLPv1, > but fails to grant in perpetuity. It may be that SGIs lawyer > will have to do lawyering to work out one that satisfies them. I've talked a bit more with some the upper management here at SGI. Nothing concrete but the basic feeling: if a license can be found that would satisfy the Free aspect of the BSD community without giving permission to direct competitors ( e.g. Sun ) the ability build and ship a product would then compete with IRIX boxes. I suspect the easiest thing is going to be a license that removes the viral aspect of the GPL but still requires permission from SGI for any commercial application. > > > Hopefully SGI will learn the HP JetSend and the Sun JINI and the > Net/1 & Net/2 TCP/IP lesson: if you want something to be standard, > you can't control it, and if you control it, it won't be standard. > It's going to take time.... opening up XFS was a big step, I suspect most managers in the company don't fully understand what has happened for what could happen. Slow chipping at the old ideas.... > > > > Note: my March 1st offer stands. I have yet to hear how to get > the unencumbered (SGI-only) GPL code... the clock's ticking. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. -- Russell Cattelan -- Digital Elves inc. -- Currently on loan to SGI Linux XFS core developer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message