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Date:      Mon, 11 May 2015 13:43:54 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: nosh version 1.14
Message-ID:  <20150511114354.GK53149@e-new.0x20.net>
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On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 10:40:06PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> nosh is now up to version 1.14
>=20
> * http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.ht=
ml
>=20
> The largest part of the recent changes is a list of new service bundles,=
=20
> most of which are cross-platform, but a few of which are BSD-specific. =
=20
> The bundles list now comes to some 230 services, not counting logging=20
> services.  The list ranges from vixiecron to OpenStack Swift, passing=20
> through such things as RabbitMQ, CUPS, and MongoDB along the way.
>=20
> As I said, I have been running FreeBSD with the nosh system and service=
=20
> management for some time.  And the service bundles, that I already have,=
=20
> have for some time been enough to fully bootstrap and run my machine. =20
> But I haven't yet finished that list of 157 rc.d scripts that I=20
> mentioned back in the announcement of nosh version 1.9.  There are just=
=20
> over 80 left:
>=20
> abi, adjkerntz, archdep, atm1, atm2, atm3, bluetooth, bridge, cleanvar,=
=20
> cleartmp, ddb, defaultroute, devfs, dhclient, dumpon, faith, gbde, geli,=
=20
> geli2, gptboot, initrandom, ip6addrctl, ipfilter, ipfs, ipfw, ipmon,=20
> ipnat, ipsec, jail, kld, kldxref, local, local_unbound, localpkg,=20
> mdconfig, mdconfig2, motd, mountcritlocal, mountcritremote, mountd,=20
> natd, netif, netoptions, netwait, nfsclient, nfsd, nsswitch, ntpdate,=20
> pflog, pfsync, postrandom, power_profile, ppp, random, rctl, resolv,=20
> rfcomm_pppd_server, root, routing, rtadvd, savecore, sendmail, serial,=20
> sppp, static_arp, static_ndp, stf, syscons, tmp, ubthidhci, ugidfw, var,=
=20
> virecover, zvol, fusefs, gdm, hald, netatalk, ossec-hids, pcbsdinit,=20
> pefs, wardenrc, webcamd
>=20
> These fall into seven main categories:
>    * Things which I don't have in use anywhere and so have difficulty in=
=20
> testing: ZFS, pf, faith, ATM, AppleTalk, and GELI.
>    * I haven't encountered a machine with diskless bootstrap since=20
> 1990.  So things like root, var, and tmp are fairly tricky to test, too.
>    * Things which have astoundingly complex ways for saying enable=3D"YES=
"=20
> flags=3D"wibble".  These are going to need some heavyweight conversion=20
> procedures.
>    * Things which never really belonged in /etc/rc.d as part of a=20
> start-stop model at all.  power_profile and serial are prime examples.
>    * Things which probably should be done a different way, such as=20
> pcbsdinit, cleartmp, and cleanvar.
>    * Things which definitely should be done a different way under nosh=20
> service management, such as mountcritlocal, kld, abi, ibcs2, and syscons.
>    * Things which even the BSD world is saying goodbye to, such as=20
> sendmail (now gone entirely from OpenBSD and DragonFly BSD).

It sound very useful. Do you provide virtual machine images or ISOs so
interested people can give it a try easily?

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