From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 25 18:41:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DA0106573E for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E488FC26 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6035C320EDC; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:22:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: G3ceWpqnMdAEW1Gswn89vdtVyPFHi/Q0ACiihmSWLfqb 1240683725 Received: from 174-159-123-127.pools.spcsdns.net (174-159-123-127.pools.spcsdns.net [174.159.123.127]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 089BF3EE1A; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Josh Paetzel To: martes In-Reply-To: <0000054941@mail.mgwigglesworth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:22:24 -0500 References: <1240615371.6029.34.camel@localhost> <20090425022227.GB79909@in-addr.com> <0000054941@mail.mgwigglesworth.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamassassin anyone??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:41:03 -0000 On Apr 25, 2009, at 12:59 PM, martes wrote: > Sorry if this seems like a blinded assumption, however, whenever > someone asks > about the origin of explicit spam, such as the anti-semetic stuff > that was > posting to the list from an obviously mangled header source, someone > always > brings up that the lists are not proctared, as if there is not any > management > at all, and such obvious garbage is just going to post due to lack of > supervision, or spam protocals... The FreeBSD mail hubs drop an incredible amount of spam. I don't know what the percentage of spam is that makes it through, but it's really really low. Yes, there are some that get through that seem pretty obvious to a human, unfortunately we don't have any humans to sit and sift through the thousands and thousands of emails that hit the mx hosts every day. No anti spam system is perfect, you make choices that affect how much spam gets through, versus how much legitimate mail gets dropped. The ratio of spam to legitimate mail that makes it through is probably in the hundreth of a percent range. Instead of complaining, or saying completely asinine things like "there is no anti spam on the lists" maybe send a thank you to postmaster@ that the lists are as usable as they are. How hard is it to just hit delete? Thanks, Josh Paetzel