From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 10 23:35:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6551624C; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (secure.freebsdsolutions.net [69.55.234.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 451DF1AD3; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.1.198] (office.betterlinux.com [199.58.199.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBANDrVc009330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:13:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: BIND segway -> python -> first-class ports From: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <529E8C53.6020208@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:14:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0BD5B14A-1931-40FA-BB4C-487BED772E09@jnielsen.net> References: <529E8C53.6020208@freebsd.org> To: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: ns1.jnielsen.net 1156; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:35:57 -0000 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > I have said before that in my opinion we should have two classes of = ports. > Mechanically they are handled the same but class 1 ports are "standard = additions", > and if they don't work it's a "stop-ship" condition.. These would be = MAJOR ports.. > like a minimal python, a minimal Perl (ok yuk but some people would = insist), > BIND, Sendmail, bash, and other things that people EXPECT to be in a = FreeBSD system. > If you break such a port it has the same weight as breaking something = in base, > but it's not base.. Whether we like it or not, 'pkg' is now (as of 10.0) effectively a = "first-class" port, since although it lives in ports it is relied on by = the base system (pkg bootstrapper) to provide core functionality = (package management). Since we have such a distinction it would be useful to make official so = we could, for example, do more frequent build and regression tests of = such ports. And if we're going to do that for one port we might as well = do it for several... JN