From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 11 20:51:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A670116A51E for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D61B43D53 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 20:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k4BKpO2c019173; Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:24 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id k4BKpOvr019172; Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:24 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Dirk Engling Message-ID: <20060511205124.GA17701@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20060508185155.H84453@erdgeist.org> <1147106428.2570.9.camel@localhost> <20060509124442.E84453@erdgeist.org> <1147171780.4810.19.camel@mayday.esat.net> <4463760F.7010304@erdgeist.org> <1147367711.80625.24.camel@localhost> <20060511203018.R84453@erdgeist.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060511203018.R84453@erdgeist.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New jail_interface broken in 6.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:51:30 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 09:02:52PM +0200, Dirk Engling wrote: >=20 > Its nothing personal. I just feel discomfortable by the fact, that your= =20 > mistake (hey, everyone makes mistakes) has made it into a release,=20 > apparently without any testing. Shouldnt there be a Q/A? Thats why I put= =20 > the mail on list, not to embarrass you. The Q/A process is that users download the BETA and RC releases and test the feature they care about. Unless someone out of the blue gives us tens of millions of dollars to hire a massive testing staff there is no other option. If you depend on a critical feature that isn't used by the average user you need to either test it or risk this happening. This is not idea, but that's the world we live in. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEY6PLXY6L6fI4GtQRApnpAKCbeJayUktDcoLh8CJFfzvIWQkIWgCaAqc2 n4JRClWTmiudRonfX0QNYfU= =Vees -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC--