From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 3 16:31:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F169516A4CE for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:31:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (f170.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A3143D2F for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:31:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j23GVYrg008707; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:31:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "ALeine" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:10:16 PST." <200503021910.j22JAGCH081224@marlena.vvi.at> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:31:34 +0100 Message-ID: <8706.1109867494@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: tech-security@NetBSD.org cc: elric@imrryr.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: FUD about CGD and GBDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:31:45 -0000 In message <200503021910.j22JAGCH081224@marlena.vvi.at>, "ALeine" writes: >Not necessarily, if one were to implement the ideas I proposed >I believe the performance could be kept at the same level as now. I gave up on journalling myself because IMO it complicates things a lot and the problem it solves is very very small. The impact in disk seeks is non-trivial to predict, but it is very hard to argue that it will not lead to an increase in disk seeks. (This is really a variant of the age old argument between jounaling filesystems and "traditional" filesystems) I can only recommend that you try :-) We need more ideas and more people trying out ideas. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.