From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 21 07:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22764 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22758 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahd@kew.com) Received: from sonata.uucp.kew.com (pandora.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.139]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA07428; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sonata.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.13c); Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <358d16f2.kew-sonata@sonata.uucp.kew.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:21:33 -0500 From: "Drew Derbyshire" Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (PO Box 80144, Stoneham MA 02180) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM layout Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:33:08 -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > I remain VERY unhappy the discs are not labeled properly with the > > specific disc contents -- the doc bug I cut on this was closed without > > Try reading the README files. Read the PR that you closed for the multiple steps checking all four CD-ROMs require. I did load the CD-ROM's and did an "ls", and just did check the README file on disc 1 -- it does not define the layout, but puts the user at the LAYOUT file, which in turn fails to describe all four discs. (I would suggest the root document files on every CD-ROM include the layouts of all CD-ROM's in the set in the future; whether this requires a longer LAYOUT file or distinct LAYOUT files is up to the person doing the enhancement.) > And stop whining, for god's sake, You want to call repeated problems with your major physical product by paying customers whining, be my guest -- don't expect them to keep paying, though. > I've already said publically that I'd fix this in the next version and > your statements of unhappiness have already been noted. If you are going to fix the issue, you should have left the PR open. I took your earlier comments to mean deadlines made it hard to produce externally labeled CD-ROM's meeting the basic standards I set out in the PR and still meet schedules. I also concluded (apparently incorrectly) that release 2.2.7 would be externally labeled no better than 2.2.6. This, combined with the 2.2.2 and 2.2.5 CD-ROM contents not being very usable out of the box, are a sufficient problem for me that I am considering cancelling my release subscription and just using my cable modem for downloads. > You accomplish nothing useful in this posting. The post asked a specific question, which was the existence and location of the unpacked sources on the discs. This was Nth-level of my real problems for the day (SPAM->sendmail 8.9->m4->src->CD layout), and the related comment pointed out how the lack of labeling affected real use of the CD-ROM's. I never did get a response to my question, but I bothered to close the issue (until your note arrived) with my own follow-up note. -ahd- -- Internet: ahd@kew.com Voice: 781-279-9812 Be careful, the last person using this keyboard had a terminal disease. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message