From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 23 02:41:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31279D18ED0 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22b.google.com (mail-yw0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22751CF for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i203so23883217ywc.3 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=S7p/AcVQvkrLIT+EPF+koiZU8CEyh6XLlVgLDrSGxSI=; b=HMFQv9v3k/ksU90mDoGubeb6bpUpo/GVGDYO7gGGBbKfsfS+K9hyIgDsZUZYfHBk9a o0WXo0giMGnF633YHoHS3rgbAtmXfuB2yEBjAH7E3oasz2tkD8xeynLJPjJopSINRv04 DoQj7m/FziO7m87mfvoD+d4cQBhBqknEdpSjJwukOfmASAeH2azLdzoKnopcDUkIQMQS 5UQBqQDFYL00ghBeoooBjY31bzHtWZMMYCJILA7kCONFk0mEiX9fK90AORNtI3DSkI3a 2n/BgkmVuw7s+xv3fRqxsybLVmasmV3p9FmwUNsPRsrm5O/gmRE2QRjdxZcZpTrPKQUn HlUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=S7p/AcVQvkrLIT+EPF+koiZU8CEyh6XLlVgLDrSGxSI=; b=kOGfQRD56ihx+rz1X7COg0Vn2g0U39kWPoN+Rdq4cCSXGUwfE8zeIzfL28fT+TinQz RjyXYh+NU452PXTbfN+BIRaOjPtlNPQ1hsJCksGtM1CXk330n29w7/vjl2NP9qHRryY0 pS0S9kB/CWAwrTuD5iDaMT7uGn/hxmSGIu+BqfXcs+DLAdQfvBYt6dTWqdHbLhkJ5XKI yW8fg7+uIDSPxXyUADtNLbnRrGqpZO2UpaqqAi9mNPZDVuFm8kGmTYHviYDkC7eNzlOk Zj6WMHZMmT+FaBsESMmfU678WH3xvJQ1TUph4ISdfUi08cK3AOvN4NPdbAa5rP9THCPd bIFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3x8Vakycp3CdLppDY/5pp2/z3wn8FXukCfCtB1UoGuKAYPeRmp6hxycDaHPxoNk2Ny4p62Yhdm8hVwHg== X-Received: by 10.13.221.19 with SMTP id g19mr116346ywe.21.1490236915057; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:41:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.163.227 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:41:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <378051e6-d075-c00c-066d-e6240583ea59@ohlste.in> References: <378051e6-d075-c00c-066d-e6240583ea59@ohlste.in> From: William Dudley Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how do I get STARTTLS working with sendmail on FreeBSD 10.3 ? To: Jim Ohlstein Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:41:56 -0000 There's another layer in there, popd or imapd or whatever, but the point is, I've been using sendmail on FreeBSD for at least a decade. I had STARTTLS working with sendmail just last year. So your assertion that I have to run some other MTA could not be true. But thanks for your time. I welcome all suggestions, even ones that don't pan out. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Hello, > > On 3/22/17 8:32 PM, William Dudley wrote: > >> I have news for you. Unless this feature was just removed from >> sendmail/FreeBSD, it should >> work. It WAS WORKING until November 2016. >> > > That would be news. I guess you have a super Sendmail that listens for and > accepts POP3(s)/IMAP(s) connections. That would be interesting since > Sendmail is an SMTP(s) server. I won't bother you again since you are > clearly more knowledgeable than I. > > > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jim Ohlstein > > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On 3/18/17 6:44 PM, William Dudley wrote: >> >> A google search does not reveal a useful answer. >> >> I just want to use a self-signed certificate so I can get my >> email from my >> FreeBSD mail server to my cell phone. My FreeBSD server runs >> sendmail. >> I don't really want to switch to postfix, qmail, etc. etc. >> >> >> I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you after all this time and >> effort, but AFAIK Sendmail speaks neither POP3 nor IMAP so you >> cannot use it as an MDA. You can use it to *send* email from your >> phone, but not to retrieve it. You also can use it to forward mails >> to another email address from which you can retrieve it, of that's >> what you want. >> >> If you want to retrieve emails using your phone's email client, you >> will need an MDA. I use mail/dovecot2. >> >> I know that you do not want to install a different MTA, but after >> all this effort I'd suggest trying Exim. TLS is supported out of the >> box (in the default ports/packages configuration) and is extremely >> easy to configure [1]. You can use Dovecot authorization [2] with >> Exim, killing two birds with one stone. >> >> [1] >> http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch- >> encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html >> > ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html> >> - see Section 6 >> >> [2] http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/EximAndDovecotSASL >> >> >> -- >> Jim Ohlstein >> >> >> "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the >> difference." - Mark Twain >> >> >> > -- > Jim Ohlstein > > > "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the > difference." - Mark Twain >