From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 15:10:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC1106566B for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF618FC1B for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so3118008vxg.13 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.7 with SMTP id bw7mr6348586vdc.32.1311001833812; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bp11sm129899vcb.0.2011.07.18.08.10.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RHnxg2stvz2CG4g for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:10:30 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110718111030.6faab2d5@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110718145155.GA77041@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <4E23F31C.3010803@pathscale.com> <20110718073000.29e89590@scorpio> <20110718134903.993b87f5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110718145155.GA77041@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:10:37 -0000 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100 Frank Shute articulated: > I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their > donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of > development like TUG do: > > https://www.tug.org/donate.html > > It should be at least split into server, workstation and general > development. > > I donate to both FreeBSD and TUG but I far prefer the TUG model. When > I donate to the Foundation, I know a lot of my money is going to > esoteric server development which doesn't benefit me much but benefits > large corporations who can afford to fund their own development to > scratch *their own* itches. I want mine scratched! Thanks, I was not familiar with "tug". I will definitely investigate it further. I am also in total agreement with you statement regarding donations to the Foundation. How much money (I don't really expect an answer) was donated to the Java group. Yet, they never delivered an up-to-date version. By the way Frank, agreeing with anything I propose on this forum will probably draw Poly's wrath not to mention the general disapproval of the masses at large. Unfortunately, the "Something for Nothing" mindset permeates all too strongly though the community. I honestly believe that there are users here who would rather eat garbage than pay a dollar (currency of your choosing) to have a fine meal. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html