From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Dec 4 20:53:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7521538D; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA58889; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199912050453.UAA58889@apollo.backplane.com> To: Wes Peters Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Dennis , Mike Smith , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI DMA lockups in 3.2 (3.3 maybe?) References: <41264.944342473@zippy.cdrom.com> <199912042149.NAA57545@apollo.backplane.com> <3849BE44.EF52448C@softweyr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> :There is ALWAYS interest in finding out what a problem is when it's :> :reported in such a way that the effort is worth the potential reward. :> :Having someone walk up and say, in effect, "Dudes, your system is :> :broken. Fix it!" is a content-free statement and does not qualify as :> :> This is complete bullshit. Read through the thread from day 1... :> starting around Nov 20th. : :Matt, this thread is a LOT older than Nov 20th, it runs for YEARS. Dennis :said the same things about 2.2 vs. 2.1.5 at the very least. A few years :later when he finally got his driver sorted out for 2.2, it became the :best thing since sliced bread and now 3.x is nothing but crap. : :Wes Peters Softweyr LLC If you base your opinion on something a person has done years ago then absolutely *nothing* he can do will change your opinion. If you then perpetuate the problem by using that as the basis for a continuing opinion, and use that to color your every reply, then you create a self-fullfilling prophesy. The only person you have to blame in that type of situation is yourself, since you are the only one who can change it. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message