From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Apr 14 08:44:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB962B9B10 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [IPv6:2607:f740:d:20::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 491fDQ6Lb7z3NV8 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@freebsd.org) Received: from cid.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491fDD5wsyz3m7h; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mail.daemonic.se ([127.0.0.1]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by cid.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10587) with ESMTPS id PCVudzj0pBsI; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from garnet.daemonic.se (host-95-192-128-200.mobileonline.telia.com [95.192.128.200]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 491fDD1B0Pz3lbm; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Ars Technica article To: Theron , Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <4e3bf6be-aecf-7c62-df98-1cc4b01b8db9@gmail.com> <43f83193-e495-2bf2-f85d-91aa0b36c1a0@gmail.com> <0e205fe8-fbc6-5d91-99b0-1bd4870b8a5d@gmail.com> <536A0D50-4119-4C28-9202-28622152B203@freebsd.org> <20200413052406.GA90880@FreeBSD.org> <20200413075034.GA46382@FreeBSD.org> <2761dfd9-f031-9a47-024e-71ef29f9ac23@gjunka.com> <24943162-97e4-7221-45c8-aeda7907c168@gmail.com> From: Niclas Zeising Message-ID: <19679c94-a8b2-bac7-5d50-c9dc0d5af978@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:44:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24943162-97e4-7221-45c8-aeda7907c168@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 491fDQ6Lb7z3NV8 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.96 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2607:f740:d::/48, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:44:23 -0000 On 2020-04-14 02:14, Theron wrote: > On 2020-04-13 06:34, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> When FreeBSD 12.1 was first released, there were issues with the=20 >> binary package of drm-fbsd12.0-kmod, since all packages still were=20 >> built on 12.0, and a kmod built on 12.0 didn't work on 12.1.=C2=A0 Sin= ce=20 >> then, the package build cluster has changed to build all packages for=20 >> 12 on 12.1, so if you're running 12.1 the binary package should work.=20 >> If you are running 12-stable you need to compile the driver though. >> Regards > Won't this become an issue again when 12.2 is released, seeing as=20 > today's 12-stable can't use the 12.1 package?=C2=A0 I'm not aware of an= y=20 > progress on this matter or any technical discussions since these: >=20 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D241101 > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23881 >=20 > At very least, drm-kmod should be set NO_PACKAGE=3Dyes before 12.2 is=20 > released, since the 12.1 package becomes garbage anyway on new=20 > installations or upgrades. Yes, this will be a problem. We are aware of the issue and hopefully we=20 can come up with a solution before 12.2 is released. Regards --=20 Niclas Zeising