From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Jul 9 18:36:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1461B8460F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (grunt.madpilot.net [78.47.145.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 815C01DBE for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3rn0Rj6z3MzZrg for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:36:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=madpilot.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:subject:subject:received:received; s=mail; t= 1468089360; x=1469903761; bh=F0So6z8xUv3QL30ggfpmc23W39CeswVrBQ4 sjEIdfBg=; b=moXLrpq386bX3q5Gc26wa6BE05rvO8gLje5STGLU6ih+iz4uzfM qA86PJL1yZ97Yqi8JgqADiXHIrMnWiThymr7XkptEGgzRXLzYAOFOEGZukTpgKMu sUju1Rb0Pv6O9M0yed0IrEkCaqtbJWPLJtEMB+yxf+d/SYk4KkVjRLsk= Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OTMlJT4sMtR2 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:36:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tommy.madpilot.net (micro.madpilot.net [88.149.173.206]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:36:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: base components should always be default (Re: change in default openssl coming) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <6ceaba03-3e07-606d-3c93-f3f40c8ae38d@madpilot.net> <20160709173116.GU94145@graf.pompo.net> From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <3547d58c-c4d9-5165-6f80-2cb2326a5eb0@madpilot.net> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:35:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160709173116.GU94145@graf.pompo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:36:06 -0000 On 07/09/16 19:31, Thierry Thomas wrote: > Le sam 9 jul 16 à 12:49:53 +0200, Guido Falsi > écrivait : > >> Completely removing OpenSSL from base requires replacing it with some >> other SSL implementation, or removing a lot of other goodies which >> interface themselves with the external world from base. > > Well, anyway, we are going to a packaged base, so this question won't be > a problem. > Yes and no. Each user can choose to not install openssl parts and other base packages depending on it. They can already do that anyway, there are a lot of "WITHOUT" knobs, there's also WITHOUT_OPENSSL. Only real difference is at present it has to be done compiling from source, with packages it could be done by picking packages. But that option will not change the basic problem of how the OS is developed. FreeBSD base will anyway include OpenSSL even though users can choose(and have been able to for a long while) too not install it. -- Guido Falsi