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Date:      Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:02:09 +0800
From:      Ariff Abdullah <ariff@FreeBSD.org>
To:        kosio.dimitrov@gmail.com
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Status of VIA Envy24 audio controller
Message-ID:  <20060724210209.2e20820a.ariff@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:41:19 +0200
Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> wrote:
> Quoting Konstantin Dimitrov <kosio.dimitrov@gmail.com> (from Mon, 24
> =20
> Jul 2006 11:37:59 +0000):
>=20
> > during the last weekend i have some free time and decided to look
> > through the list of reported problems:
>=20
> In case there are some open PRs I would like to know the number of
> them...
>=20
> > 5) vchans don't work
> >
> > it is a feature, not a bug and it is really great feature, so
> > should be removed from the list with bugs. Envy24(1712) has very
> > precise 36bit wide hardware mixer, which is superior that vchans
> > (software sound mixer in the kernel). the driver supports
> > Envy24(1712) hardware mixer, so up to 10 channels (5 stereo pairs)
> > can be playback simultaneously and that is why no software sound
> > mixer (vchans) is needed.
>=20
via8233 support up to 5 channels hardware mixing and works
beautifully. The question is whether it is properly implemented or
not.

> What if someone wants to play more than 5 stereo pairs at once?
>=20
> I agree that if an high quality feature like this is supported, it =20
> should be used. But I don't agree that we should not use vchans. If=20
>=20
> someone wants to use vchans, he should be able to use them (we can
> add   a note into the man page regarding the hardware feature and
> the   relative quality of it compared to vchans).
>=20
I second this.

> Regarding the use of the hardware feature: How do you make use of it
> =20
> in the driver? Do you allow the same stereo channel to get opened 5=20
>=20
> times and let the hardware handle everything?
>=20
Support for full blown 8/16/24/32 sign/unsigned vchan/softpcmvol/ssrc
does exist:

http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/

I still need time to resync all my "stalled" work first.

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Ariff Abdullah
FreeBSD

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