From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 22:13:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A595D16A41F for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AD0343D46 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Aug 2005 22:13:01 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 11 Aug 2005 00:13:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:12:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <42F7F7E8.1020507@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42FA3D44.2020502@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42FA3DF7.2040800@dominique-werner.com> In-Reply-To: <42FA3DF7.2040800@dominique-werner.com> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4198030.vcGQEuDQAQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200508110012.55575@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Mike Jakubik , "O. Hartmann" , Dmitry Mityugov , Unix , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:13:03 -0000 --nextPart4198030.vcGQEuDQAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 19:48 CEST schrieb Unix: > O. Hartmann wrote: > > Mike Jakubik wrote: > >> On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said: > >>> There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other > >>> models, that are supposed to work 24/7. > >> > >> Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only > >> after about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty. > > > > On the other hand: In the department for physics of the athmosphere, > > where I built six years ago a server for meteorological data, a RAID-5 > > with 4 older IBM U160 SCSI discs still works - 24/7. Never had a > > problem! > > I still own old 1-2 GB old SCSI disks and these are still working, I > also had an old 500mb SCSI disk that was in an old Mac that also worked > but I trashed it since it was that old and no longer of use... I have an old 700 MB WD IDE drive that still works fine and has about 6=20 years 24/7 survived. And I also had a 2000$ 73G SCSI IBM drive that lasted= =20 for about 5 monthas and was that damadged that Convar sent it back without= =20 one byte recovered! And I don't want to remember the 80GB WD drive that=20 lasted for 2 months...... Please, don't discuss about SCSI/ATA reliability, there are bad=20 designed/produced drives and there are good ones. You can't tell before,=20 only experience counts. I can say only good things about Seagates Barracuda 7200.8 drives for=20 example. Some dozends are running for two years without _any_ single drive= =20 failed. Also the Samsung (p)ATA drives are still running without any=20 single failure. And WDs once were perfect drices, but they also produced=20 crap. So you can't even be sure by vendor! =2DHarry P.S.: I'm planning to bring up a FreeBSD site which reflects hardware=20 compatibility experiences as well as long term experiences. I'll be back=20 if I have more... --nextPart4198030.vcGQEuDQAQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBC+nvnBylq0S4AzzwRApQzAJsEw4AJBkTHgPbTdlaTGEEfwKNRMwCeLl/5 RrbKp35UoGr65kMdGXJFg84= =fy0W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4198030.vcGQEuDQAQ--