From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 16 21:30:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3452530 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B603EE70 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id n16so423298oag.10 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZHjZgUYbO1ynkRNdCevp82CzQShBwCcQ7D6UMUIA5eE=; b=GvNYH2JhFYRA152DW5yggDyGEeYOZ9EW4zVHJiLS1LkoZ9PgGckV2p8JjbHWa+ts24 w6WKw5sAe48SzNcyhTbjNBWJ7OH97niPNr3Vp8wIPiX68juwI73cy4tV1K2838FpqCg1 xX1nKyTiPhJ07s9w/URIp3iJosv3oq2NTFQ2yHM5+Paotjv40RpeRF+lXc9wkTDp+dI5 MpDAG6hnlcZZoIQXC7DteR5YejyfaidFlWJumLIl00KeSJVPYHaZ3WC+8v/dMiJyzJB+ PQHxzfZ93fxti0YhtZpb2tbyamb1aF6gnpIn74X3v6+NG11Rp/673eaPIcmrIz0NiSLa xwNw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkjKZcJmHX2pr467fd1Tp9575hNv3kSeveh1MXtowfproSv/2qHa9T5LGhRRg8L7WtqxHj3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.87.167 with SMTP id az7mr38758667obb.41.1410903001433; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.220.134 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2509308.9rytrV7MvD@penguin> <5411A89B.4010707@gmail.com> <1812950.bWcWxrzvJI@penguin> <54189CD1.7070102@webrz.net> <5418A5EE.1030304@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:30:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A lot of pkg problems From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:30:09 -0000 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Warren Block wrote: > The amount of time people are willing to invest in "saving time" with > packages is interesting. In many cases, they could have built from ports > and been done quicker overall, or at least with less user involvement. And you can always do a 'make package' for a port - with the advantage of being able, in many cases, to answer config questions that can change the behavior and usefulness of a package (e.g., racoon with the control port enabled, disabled by default in the packages). - M