From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 22 12:01:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1730C37B404 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7A943FBD for ; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (localhost.de.freebsd.org [127.0.0.1])h5MJ1nCx005303; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:01:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost)h5MJ1naS005302; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:01:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.6) id h5MIxqXS000968; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:59:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:59:52 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20030622205952.A463@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <7672.1056098529@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7672.1056098529@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@phk.freebsd.dk on Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:42:09AM +0200 cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release usage statistics... X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:01:54 -0000 On 2003-06-20 10:42:09 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > I find it hard to belive that 5.x is not used... > > for instance: > http://www.freebsd.org/statistic/release_usage/2003/2003-06-18 Hi Poul-Henning, the release usage statistic use the data from the www.freebsd.org log file (field User Agent). There are some problems with this basic approach: 1) browsers with a faked user agent, e.g. Opera 2) browsers in linux emulation send Linux as OS, e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386) 3) since some month Mozilla no nonger send the Version of FreeBSD, only the OS and the hardware platform: "FreeBSD i386" Point 3) is the biggest problem, because most users use Mozilla and fewer and fewer people use Netscape 4.x ... The release statistic is now useless - it is a statistic about die hard Netscape 4.x users running old FreeBSD releases. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org