From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 10 9: 2:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E5F37B401; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EC043EDA; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBAH1lV27708; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:01:47 -0200 Message-ID: <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:01:24 -0200 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: Mike Makonnen , current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Doug Barton Subject: Re: RC NG, ntp and routed References: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> <20021210024350.GC16008@matrix.identd.net> <20021210162208.GJ45512@roark.gnf.org> In-Reply-To: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gordon Tetlow wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote: > > >The following patch should solve your problem. However, > >it's only a partial solution. It fixes the case for ntpd > >and ntpdate but not for other network daemons like rpcbind, which=20 > still get > >started _before_ the routing daemons. I haven't included patches for > >those because sorting out the dependencies is going to be a bit more > >involved. I'll have it done when I get a chance later this week. > >(A consequence of this is going to be that we will be moving *away* fr= om > > NetBSD in the dependency ordering, but we can sort that out with=20 > them later). > > > I think keeping our boot scripts the same is kind of a pipe dream. I th= ink > we should keep our rc.subr the same, but for individual scripts, I=20 > think we > should just go our own way. I disagree. NetBSD uses the same ntpd as us, and, therefore, face the=20 very same problem. They just haven't noticed the problem in practice. On another note, I thought the patch a bit excessive. Here, I just added = BEFORE: ntpd to routed. OTOH, it seems that patch did a bit more. Anyway, as long as routed is run before ntpd on systems where it is=20 active, I'm happy. Nor do I think we need to get the patch in now, before 5.0-R. The kind=20 of environment where the problem would show up is uncommon, and not=20 likely to be found outside production settings, and 5.0-R is _not_=20 indicated for production settings. --=20 Daniel C. Sobral Ger=EAncia de Opera=E7=F5es Divis=E3o de Comunica=E7=E3o de Dados Coordena=E7=E3o de Seguran=E7a TCO Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message