From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 11 22:16:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay1.yahoo.com (mail-relay1.yahoo.com [216.145.48.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F5737B406 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DougBarton.net (db-cvad-2-tmp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.243]) by mail-relay1.yahoo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E209B8B5BF for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BC67CBD.1DAAC031@DougBarton.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:16:45 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Strike three, you're out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the first time in as long as I can remember (several years at least), I've backed my workstation at home down to -STABLE. The three problems I'm having currently are just too much for me to put up with, and at this point in my life I need something that works. Yes... I know that this is an excellent reason to go back to -stable, so why am I bothering to write the list about it? Basically in the hopes that these things will get some attention. Reported on 9/30: panic: blockable sleep lock (sx) allproc @ /usr/local/src/sys/kern/kern_proc.c:212 According to BDE, "This is a well-know bug in printf(9). The TIOCCONS ioctl always gave non-deterministic crashes. Now it gives determinstic panics when pintf() is called while sched_lock is held." That's the only discussion about it, no fixes, no suggestions. Ok, I can live without that one, but, Reported on 9/30: Any releng_4 apps that I tried to run on my -current system could not resolve hostnames. This included cvsup and yahoo! messenger. This was a show stopper for me. The only suggestion I received was to make sure that I didn't have any old libs laying around, which I did; and install COMPAT4x, which I also did. Updating -current every other day to see if something magic happened led me to, Reported on 10/6: Soren's ATA upgrade caused kernel panic on boot. Soren was kind enough to discuss these changes with me, which were necessary to accomodate some laptop users. However, he hasn't had a chance to find a middle ground yet. So, in the process of backing the above change out, the kernel I came up with crashed, and corrupted my / partition (which wasn't ata related, since my hd's in that system are scsi). So, rather than repair it, I replaced it. I've always felt strongly that developers should have at least one -current install around to work on, and I've always had good luck from following the lists, updating judiciously, etc. I know that people who can't afford broken stuff shouldn't run -current on key systems, which is why I've downgraded. I've always been willing to do what I can to debug, test, report, etc. But three nasty problems with no help is more than I can deal with right now. Hoping it gets better soon, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message