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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d6sm10969632qkj.72.2020.05.12.06.29.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 May 2020 06:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49LzDf2Cdzz1Vmn for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 09:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 09:29:28 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-ID: <20200512092928.00002a53@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <03dfc1f4-f731-c433-26f9-3133d530b8f0@suszko.eu> References: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> <223da1b3-a83d-b2e8-36dc-468dcb219305@suszko.eu> <64a1fede-6c08-6361-9486-4be4f7db7d0a@suszko.eu> <20200512061532.00003b6e@seibercom.net> <03dfc1f4-f731-c433-26f9-3133d530b8f0@suszko.eu> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/u0rIz4D33kTw2UYDDutFsIu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49LzDk1gy8z4G2l X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=SgJ6nanc; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::743 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.24 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[ip: (0.01), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.42), country: US(-0.05)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:29:43 -0000 --Sig_/u0rIz4D33kTw2UYDDutFsIu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 12 May 2020 13:15:54 +0200, Maciej Suszko commented: >On 5/12/20 12:15 PM, Jerry wrote: > >[ c u t ] > >> I assume by 'Temas' you mean 'Teams'. Is that correct? If so, have >> you tried posting one of the MS Teams forums regarding this problem? >> I have already made a request that has receive some support for a >> FreeBSD specific version of Teams. The created one for at least >> Debian, so I assume they could do the same for FreeBSD. =20 > >Yes, my mistake of course... should be Teams. No, I haven't made any >requests to MS Teams - just saw lot of posts describing some sort of >problems and no solid workaround or solution. > >> If you want, and can supply me with ALL the information,I would be >> happy to make a report for you. I am on the 'Edge Dev' beta team,and >> they LOVE to get info like this, especially edge cases like yours >> appears to be. =20 > >That's nice :) How may I help you? What kind of information would be >helpful to your team? If you wish, I can mail you on priv but I suppose >it would be better to do it on the mailing list. > >> By the way, I share your dislike of 'wine'. If I am going to go to >> the trouble of running a pseudo OS environment, I might as well run >> the real one and get all of the benefits. That is why I would >> suggest a VM, but that is your choice. =20 > >I remember times using wine on Linux as the only option to have some >Windows apps running... I respect wine developers work but creating >some sort of portability layer between more than two operating systems >is really hard work and I think it's gonna be harder and harder to >follow all the changes in Windows, Linux, FreeBSD and all the >operating systems that the wine is supposed to run on. Yes, contact me OL. While this is a FreeBSD problem, no one is really going to appreciate it being posted here. Briefly, I need all the info you can give me. 1) Your OS and version 2) Web browser and version 3) Error messages, etcetera 4) Anything else pertinent to this problem. I'll post it to their MS Teams technical site and see what transpires. In all honestly, I feel they will use the FreeBSD equivalent of "RTFM"; i.e., Firefox and Chromium are NOT supported. I seriously doubt that they will respond with "patches welcome", but that is just a guess. Now,depending on your interpretation of 'good news', Microsoft announced that they will be releasing a version of 'Edge' for Linux. I have been using the 'dev' channel on Windows for months now. In any case, depending on how it is released to Linux, there is always a possibility it can be ported to FreeBSD. I also came across this URL regarding Google Chrome: https://itsfoss.com/install-chrome-ubuntu/ Maybe that could be adopted for your use. I also share your trepidation regarding 'wine'. The only wine I have ever enjoyed was the one you drink, and I am a 'Scotch' (JW Black) man myself. 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