From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 15:01:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DE1065673; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573378FC20; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4847FFDE.8000209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:01:50 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Marlatt References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <4846E14C.709@FreeBSD.org> <48472CCF.8080101@FreeBSD.org> <4847EF62.1070709@rxsec.com> <4847F814.10409@FreeBSD.org> <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com> In-Reply-To: <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jo Rhett , Doug Barton , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:01:50 -0000 Chris Marlatt wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Chris Marlatt wrote: >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>> Jo Rhett wrote: >>>>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>>>> Also, it's not like anyone should have been caught by surprise by >>>>>> the 6.2 EoL; the expiry date has been advertised since the 6.2 >>>>>> release itself. >>>>> >>>>> It has changed multiple times. I keep reviewing and finding 6.3 >>>>> bugs outstanding, and then observe the EoL get pushed. >>>>> >>>>> I'm surprised that it failed to get pushed this time. >>>>> >>>> I'm sorry that the FreeBSD project failed to conform to your >>>> expectations. However, I invite you to actually try 6.3 for yourself >>>> instead of assuming that it will fail. >>>> >>>> Kris >>> In an effort to potentially find a compromise between those who >>> believe FreeBSD is EoL'ing previous releases too quickly and those who >>> don't. Have those in a position to set FreeBSD release schedules >>> debated the option of setting a long term support release, a specific >>> release picked by the team to be support for,.. 4 or 5 years? Other >>> projects have done this will relative success and considering the >>> "only" work required for this release would be security patches the >>> work load should be minimized. Hopefully something like this could >>> free up more time for the FreeBSD developers to continue their work on >>> the newer release(s) while still answering the requests of what seems >>> like quite a few of the legacy FreeBSD users. Thoughts? >>> >>> If this has already been discussed on-list I apologize for beating a >>> dead horse but I can't recall it bring brought up before. >> Uh yeah, this has been in place for *years*. Have you actually read the >> support announcements? They are public ;) >> >> Kris > > I do actually - and when was the last release that was support for such > a duration of time,.. 4.11? As of recent the longest I've seen has been > 24 months with others being only 12. Yes, and this is the FreeBSD definition of "long term support". Don't like it? Do something about it. Kris