From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 6 03:49:50 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4D7532A13 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXdb15Qcqz3G11 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 03:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.137.160]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D337E4E655; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 21:40:06 -0600 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: What are good mail hosts to use with FreeBSD mailing lists? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20210206032551.258a07a7@archlinux> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 21:40:05 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20210206032551.258a07a7@archlinux> To: Ralf Mardorf X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DXdb15Qcqz3G11 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.51 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.09)[-0.087]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.137.160:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[172.58.137.160:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 03:49:50 -0000 > On Feb 5, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf = wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 01:46:37 +0000, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote: >> My employer is making me use outlook. So I would like to use a >> different email host company for my FreeBSD mailing lists. I tried >> gmail, but it seems that gmail is blacklisted with FreeBSD.org. This makes my day! Great move, FreeBSD.org!! gmail is a pain in you know what for sysadmin.It accepts all mail even = to addresses that do not exist lying =E2=80=9Cdeliverable=E2=80=9D, then = gets back to you with non-delivery message. Making my server potential = source of backscatter. My server when it has to forward always starts = session with next hop, and only when that is ready to accept message = tells previous hop =E2=80=9COk can deliver=E2=80=9D, then passed to next = hop. You do your own math why gmail accepts undeliverable messages and = what it does with information coming their way. Valeri >> Anyone got other suggestions? >=20 > It wasn't blacklisted a few hours ago, see > = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2021-February/292889= .html . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"