From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 12:10:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEDA16A4D0 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:10:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABD943D1D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230E96110 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:10:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22653-08 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:10:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD936129 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:10:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <420DF23C.2030008@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:10:36 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: OT: My thoughts on the list as of late... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:10:30 -0000 As I read *some* (mainly because there is far too much crap going in, and not enough decent content coming out) of the postings, I reflect back on my personal views on mankind as a whole. Being of a cynical nature - I tend to look at things with a "there must be a reason for this influx of crapoloa in". I come up with, divide and conquer. I'm starting to see a pattern in this list. Far too many users bickering about; 1. FreeBSD vs. (insert OS here) 2. 4.xx is better then 5.xx 3. Ports are crappy compared to ... 4. Too many dependencies compared to ... 5. FreeBSD is on SORBS ... what next? Etc. etc. etc. I suppose this could be just one big pissing contest, then again (being cynical) I tend to think it's a select "group" of users that are set out to divide and conquer. Keep the list in termoil, keep them bashing whom or whatever, keep them distracted from the real goals - so that when potential users want to investigate *BSD, they see the turmoil going on within the *BSD lists. Could that be a turn off to the potential new-comer? Very possible. Am I on target with this cynical point of view? Probably not however, ask yourself after reading a few weeks of the garbage that seeps into this list then pose that question again. I suppose it is all just coincidence that the list has become messy over the last few months. But is seems to me that it has increased more so since the posting on the FreeBSD site relating to the "Deep Study". Again, I'm not pointing fingers. Nor am I creating an innuendo. I'm simply drawing conclusions based on my view points and I thought I might share them in hopes that perhaps some of us will not respond to what I think are baiting posts. Just my -.02 cents from a cynical old man... -- Best regards, Chris Old age is always fifteen years older than I am.