From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jun 15 1:24:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83BE37B403 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@akita.co.uk) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-194.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.194] helo=foo.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15Aotv-0000PY-00; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:24:19 +0100 Received: from paul by foo.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15AotP-00083O-00; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:23:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:23:47 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Andrew Gordon Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Still confused on what I assume to be a simple problem... Message-ID: <20010615092347.G23043@akita.co.uk> References: <20010614125404.M20238@akita.co.uk> <20010615002715.O83795-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010615002715.O83795-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk>; from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:31:10AM +0100 X-Scanner: exiscan *15Aotv-0000PY-00*$AK$ouWhMjd5TuG/Qnu7G.WGM1* Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:31:10AM +0100, Andrew Gordon wrote: > The issue here is that you have decided to use PicoBSD rather than a > normal system. Putting a normal system on CD is fairly straightforward, > and is almost certainly what you want to do unless you have peculiar > requirements that you haven't stated. I don't think you understand. From other posts (that may or may not have made it to the list), I've stated that this is a completely custom piece of software. This is not a BSD box for the use of BSD - it's a box that runs in-house software to do one particular job, and it happens to have been written for BSD. All I want is a kernel, some libraries, a few applications, some rc scripts and the ability to dial up with a modem. The machine will go onto a customer's site in the middle of god knows where. I don't want anything on it that does not have to be there. This CD is not for use - it's for automated installation. A very, very, very specific installation designed for people who have never seen a command line in their lives. They *certainly* don't want to know about disk partitions, disklabel, etc. as that defeats the object of this exercise. In other words, I want PicoBSD. A modified install image. But the libraries and apps are a bit chunky, can't be shrunk and therefore I need to burn it up to CD. The customer takes the CD, puts it in his machine, 10 minutes later they fill in some details they are prompted for (custom stuff I'm doing), and that's it. They have a working system, on the hard disk, fully installed, and they never have to think about it again. I have to say, I am mildly suprised that I've had a lot of feedback from this list both on an off list that basically goes on about how I must be a moron, and that I should be using standard FreeBSD installs. It's not helpful, and I'd appreciate that unless you know the answer to what I want to do (build an ISO of a custom picobsd image) that you don't use me as a channel to tell the world how rubbish you think PicoBSD is. If that is how you feel, perhaps you're on the wrong mailing list. :-) -- Paul Robinson - Technical Director .---------------------------------------- PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | A computer lets you make more mistakes T: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 (F: 6389) | than any other invention, with the http://www.akita.co.uk | possible exceptions of handguns and paul@akita.co.uk | Tequila -- Mitch Ratcliffe `--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message