From owner-freebsd-security Tue Jul 21 22:13:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05950 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05932 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA11396; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:13:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Brett Glass cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Projects to improve security (related to C) In-Reply-To: <199807220117.TAA21819@lariat.lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Brett Glass wrote: > be some positive decisions made and action taken. Clearly, we've > seen some problems that need fixing; the worst thing that can happen > is that people will do nothing. Constructive suggestions? If you want an automagic patching system and you think it will be a "marketable" product, the standard next step is to build a proof-of-concept prototype for some marketing tests. It seems such a system would need three componets. * A mechanism for manufacturing and packaging and labeling band-aids[1] * A band-aid delivery service * A mechanism for safely applying the band-aids I personally think the scheme would be most marketable if the last stage had a "let me look at it first" mode in addition to an automagic mode. So, go at it! :) Remember, FreeBSD is volunteer powered. -john [1] Since some in this lively exchange propose that the whole C based universe is fundamentally broken, band-aids may be the best we can do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe security" in the body of the message