From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:36:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D240A16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:36:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B450443D2D for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:36:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.179.20 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2004 17:36:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E219616B; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:36:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02159-07; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701160CF; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5SHa9ck001871; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:36:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <40E05709.9010609@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:36:09 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040624) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Eikemeier References: <03505AD2-C902-11D8-9FE1-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <03505AD2-C902-11D8-9FE1-00039312D914@fillmore-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: Divacky Roman cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggest to upgrade some software in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:36:59 -0000 On 06/28/04 07:52, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: > Jon Noack wrote: >> On 06/27/04 12:02, David O'Brien wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 04:54:08PM +0200, Divacky Roman wrote: >>>> I digged through our base system and looked for versions of >>>> contributed soft. I found these program which could (and I think >>>> should) be easily and painlessly upgraded (before 5.3 as 5-STABLE) >>>> because they are outdated etc... these are: >>>> >>>> file - 3.41 -> 4.09 >>>> Painless upgrade and the benefit is much newer magic file >>>> ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ >>> >>> Only semi-painless. The code and how it is built has changed around a >>> lot, else I would have upgraded it by now. That said, in progress; but >>> lower priority than my toolchain work. >>> And why does this have to happen before 5-STABLE? I can certainly MFC >>> something like this. >> >> Don't import until FILE 4.10 is released. I've submitted a patch to >> Christos Zoulas for inclusion in 4.10 that *greatly* increases the >> accuracy of FILE for FreeBSD. As soon as I see FILE 4.10 released >> (with my patch), I'll be pleading for an import... > > Seems like Christos has been swamped by readelf.c patches :) I must > admit that I didn't care about 4.6.2... > > Anyway, 4.09 is an improvement, and the import of 4.10 should be trivial > afterwards, so why wait? I agree that 4.09 is a huge improvement (although it's wrong for FreeBSD 4.10+, at least it correctly detects 5.x for the time being. however, as soon as we we get 5-STABLE it'll still say it's -CURRENT). The biggest issue will be the upgrade from 3.41 -> 4.x, so the 4.09 -> 4.10 upgrade should be trivial as you say. My only concern was conservation of limited developer resources. If someone wants to import 4.09 with the intent of following up to 4.10, go for it. However, in my opinion FILE 4.10 should be primary goal. Jon