From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 23 10:37:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41E4F8D4 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 10:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C926FA34 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 10:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([78.48.182.0]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MgHHO-1Wm4yH2QCM-00NjJF for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:37:19 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768EC23DA2F for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:37:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532EB95E.3010902@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:37:18 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux References: <53287821.4040209@freebsd.org> <5328A03A.3000305@freebsd.org> <532DD2EB.1080204@freebsd.org> <532DD64B.9000905@freebsd.org> <532DD978.3010502@freebsd.org> <532DDC51.7030807@freebsd.org> <532E283D.8010204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <532E283D.8010204@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HYWnqIRRWAC3I9E8c3vFeFi4glBvh2pktxQgncp46NdVZsJhrLY 2eSZSWD0fYYXrXsM7XrBkHu2GYUyxcOGF0KK84EacFFZjJNibSXTueICx/pEau7u7cBmrRv IAlMY/dNPa5blytvXcMCTT8Hpq82PEFQv2bbfF79og2ue1v9CBZ3G9tN73qptwMYkOJHG+F dN4dS8DjlmN1qyv0YKhrw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 10:37:22 -0000 Am 23.03.2014 01:18, schrieb Matthew Seaman: > PACKAGESITE support in pkg.conf has been dropped entirely in 1.3 which > is in alpha at the moment. I need to double check, but that should mean > those error messages will go away too. To be blunt, anyone who wants to use FreeBSD for production does not give a shit on pkg alpha versions, he expects pkg 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 at the latest to cover 99% right. I still foster that feeling that we are rushing and forcing ports changes, including pkgNG transition, at a hilarious pace, and even if portmgr states that -exp runs do happen for most changes, -exp runs will not capture real-world systems that need to make several transitions (pkgNG, USES=... transition of the day, Perl version of the day, Python wrapper of the day, c++ lib of the version) at once. And the lack of compatibility I've seen so far is frightening. Most people no longer test ports on pre-pkgNG systems because that's deprecated. But it needs to work fine until the day after expiration.